Wednesday, March 9, 2011

A few things...

Old habits die hard. Just ask John McClane...

#1
- The Kansas City Star explains why Sporting KC decided to pay for their stadium naming rights. Awesome.

And for those KC folks who pay attention to such silly things: The Distracter super-duper approves of this. Despite the Wizards name change, which was upsetting, they remain "her team".

#2
- Another quick catch-up with my latest output:

- This week's Postcard From Europe w/ Alejandro Bedoya
- A quick glance at the Europa League ties featuring Gooch & Mo
- A report on the hand injury that yanked Duisburg's David Yelldell
- The latest Top 5 Continental Shifts at S365

#3
- The Shin Guardian checks in from last weekend's American Outlaws Soccer Supporters Rally in Vegas, baby. It looks as though it was quite kick ass.

#4
- Nutmeg Radio's awesomely moniker-ed Mustafa Redonkulous shines a light on the rather unseemly soccer revolution taking place in Chechnya.

#5
- I meant to post this a couple weeks back and it slipped through my memory cracks and you know my rule about such things. Anyhooooo, it's one NSC pal respectfully deconstructing another's work: Big Soccer's Bill Archer cleanly tackles Grant Wahl's FIFA presidency bid. Be sure to also go through the comments (I think the poster who felt there could be more than originally meets the eye to Wahl's campaign may be onto something).

#6
- Back on his day job, Wahl chats with D.C. United newcomer Charlie Davies.

#7
- Of all the clackety-clackers in England spouting off on the Barcelona v Arsenal result as it relates to the ridiculous second yellow ejection of Robin van Persie, I agree most closely with The Mail's Martin Samuel.

Naturally, Barcelona could have and may have won the game 11 v 11 - I don't think anyone would dispute that. But Arsenal supporters are allowed to beef when a nonsense red card dramatically alters the game with them up, 35 minutes from advancing and still safely tied onto extras should Barcelona grab one goal in that time frame.

At the end, with no care as to who won, I was just forlornly wishing we'd gotten to see the proper last 35 minutes that had been tantalizingly set up for us all. Alas... unavoidably, refs are people, too.


- Greg Seltzer

19 comments:

dikranovich said...

it sure seems like martin samuel said a lot of nothing. the main thing is really that van persie did not commit a straight red offense, yet he did commit two yellow card offenses, which are equal to the same as a straight red. then no mention of a pretty clear incorrect offside in the first leg, which would have seen barca go up 2nil in london. its really a little sad that so many americans dont have a greater appreciation for this issue, being in concacaf, where we face time waisting so often.

Greg Seltzer said...

Time wasting? You have got to be kidding. There was NO second yellow offense. He did not hear the whistle, which was blown a split second before he shot on the run from a close offside call 35 minutes from time.

It took 10 times as long for the ref to astonishingly show him the gate as it would have for the keeper to grab a fresh ball and restart play.

dikranovich said...

greg sir, time waisting is not about seconds that run off the clock, rather it is about intent. van persie has said that if it was 4 or 5 or maybe 6 seconds, he could understand, but one second, that was not enough time for him to register what had just happened. van persie is obviously not as quick as messi, or villa, two guys who could stop on a dime and within the time.

van persie was carring a yellow, that means he has to proceed with caution. that is football son, and the better team won. if the score was 1 nil for barca when the event happened, it would not have been an infraction, but as it was, it was not, and it was a yellowable offense and mr. rsvp, see you in epl fantasy.

dikranovich said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQjCCfI9vUQ

this is the utimate video of the play, which comes after a postgame interview with rsvp. of course he says he could not hear the whistle with 95 k fans. and then there is the 4, 5, or 6 second comment. plus the comment that the ref was against his team all night. then of course the wonderful video, which must be played at full volume, so as to grasp what really happens.

Greg Seltzer said...

My friend... c'mon.

Played at full volume? That is a video with a directional field mic that eliminates crowd noise sitting closer to the ref than Van Persie was. He clearly did not hear the whistle. And the action he made was not anything that would waste time. The decision was ludicrous.

dikranovich said...

greg, im sorry to say, but you are thinking with your heart, not your head. be reasonable. did you not watch the van persie interview? does arsenal feel hard done? of course they do. its like the old cash song, cry, cry ,cry. do you really feel so bad for weinger, the hypocrite, who throws his verbage around the epl at teams like wigan and the likes, now it comes full circle and nails him square in the keister. arvoir arsene. think about what you are saying dude. arent you a freaking usa fan? i mean jesus.

Greg Seltzer said...

What heart?

I am not an Arsenal fan and I love Barcelona. They are both "cousin" teams to Ajax. I like them both equally. Just to clarify.

How about you? :D

Greg Seltzer said...

And why exactly is it that Arsenal should not feel aggrieved? That is a curious justification for arguing the decision was correct.

I'm just callin' it like I saw it live.

dikranovich said...

fair enough. i like both teams as well, along with ajax. maybe my heart is with the dips, really barra brava, but this is my home and i have seen cruyff live. greg, how many times have you seen cruyff play live?

Greg Seltzer said...

Sadly, just once, and not for real. It was a couple of years ago.

dikranovich said...

greg, playing on a yellow leaves a player in a difficult situation. if a defender picks up a yellow, he must be careful not to commit a silly foul. this is key in the game of football and you know it. the defender who is oblivious to his situation is bound to pick up a yellow.

van persie and arsenal were not proceeding with caution, in light of this fact. obviously the call is not made if the score is still 1 nil barca, but the score as it was was tied and arsenal new they were in front at the time of the infraction. no matter if it was "soft" or not, it was and will continue to be the rules.

dikranovich said...

greg, hold on for a sec. your not an arsenal fan and you love barca, but you like them equally, am i getting that right, or do you like ajax and barca equally?

Greg Seltzer said...

I am Ajacied. I have one club, there is no secondary club I support.

Among all the rest, most I don't have much opinion of any kind either way. Then, there are some I quite like and some I dislike, for various reasons.

Arsenal and Barcelona, I both like. They are spiritual cousins to Ajax and they have each had many of my favorite Ajax players play for them. When they meet, I could not care less who wins.

*My* beef is at not getting the final 35 minutes the tie deserved. I was aggrieved as a spectator and nut for fairness only. I had no horse in the race. Couldn't have cared less who won before it started.

But even if I was a Barcelona die-hard, I could see the call was an unfunny joke.

dikranovich said...

that is a little hyperbole isnt it greg? i mean xavi came out and said he thought it was a fair call. what, the barca diehards are going to disagree with their field general. very, very doubtful. barca was going to win this game regardless of how many players arsenal had, thats the real point. they might just have won this game 4-1, 11 v 11.

Greg Seltzer said...

1 - I was speaking as if *I* was a Barca supporter, not for the entire lot of actual ones.

2 - "barca was going to win this game regardless of how many players arsenal had, thats the real point. they might just have won this game 4-1, 11 v 11."


Buddy... pal... be careful how much you twist that logic, it may snap. :D

dikranovich said...

let me start twisting. barca had something like 70% possession. before the red. arsenal had as many shots before the red, as they had after the red and we are not talking shots on target, we are talking shots period. zero was that total number of shots the "gunners" had.

greg, you know full well what happens to a team defending this kind of pressure. it takes toll and in the end, it breaks the team. plus there is the little bit about teams defending better with ten men, or at least showing a greater commitment to defend. 11 v 11 4-1, maybe 5-1, messi definatly hits his hattrick. tottenham will match up much better against barca.

Greg Seltzer said...

Quality of play or amount of possession or amount of shots does not decide matches. Goals do. If beauty of play and domination decided matches, Ajax would lose one game a year. Sadly, this is not the case - as we saw in Amsterdam tonight.

And you can talk about the rules all you want, but if they went by the book exactly, Abidal would have been sent off before that for grabbing RvP by the throat.

Arsenal were leading the tie when the decision was made. We can pontificate on what would have happened, but the fact is Barcelona were behind when they were given a 35-minute "power play" they never should have had.

Greg Seltzer said...

Quality of play or amount of possession or amount of shots does not decide matches. Goals do. If beauty of play and domination decided matches, Ajax would lose one game a year. Sadly, this is not the case - as we saw in Amsterdam tonight.

And you can talk about the rules all you want, but if they went by the book exactly, Abidal would have been sent off before that for grabbing RvP by the throat.

Arsenal were leading the tie when the decision was made. We can pontificate on what would have happened, but the fact is Barcelona were behind when they were given a 35-minute "power play" they never should have had.

dikranovich said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tLmp7kQJA&NR=1

greg, you must really believe your last post, because you posted it twice. think about what you are saying. this video shows what a real missed call is all about. this is an incorrect call from the first leg, which, by the way would have seen barca go two nil up.

what really happened in the 2nd arsenal game was early on, dani alves went in for a hard, but legal challenge on arsenals prize ute, one jack wilshire. jack and his teamates took exception to such a hard tackle on their boy. jack even got up and went head to head with alves. i mean, who do you think would win that fight? the capoeira expert or the 16 year old.

after this hard challenge, arsenal really started hacking the barca players and it in fact lead to a couple of missed calls and then on to the showdown between abidal and van persie. then after that, van persie retaliated, by throwing his little bitch slap on alves, who did his best to invoke a card from the official, against rsvp.