Monday, October 8, 2012

This explanation should be good. (updated)

Much to my surprise, I have been informed that Jozy Altidore has not been called up for the final two second round CONCACAF qualifiers by USMNT boss Jurgen Klinsmann. I'm told he has no injury, so my thoroughly racked brain has yet to produce a suitable theory to explain this decision - or even a crazy one, really.

I certainly hope Klinsi will fill us in when the roster is announced later today.

UPDATE: Oi vey. Things happened in May-June? He trusts Alan Gordon and Eddie Johnson more? Based on what exactly? The BS is strong in that one.


- Greg Seltzer

45 comments:

dikranovich said...

he is young and petulant, and ej gonna light up some a and b and guatemala

J.D. Springer said...

I smell a Verbeek. He's been a jerk before about releasing Jozy, even when it's an international window.

ewocky said...

According to some other blogs, Jozy wrote and then deleted a tweet calling Klinsmann incompetent after the interview where he said Jozy needs to do better at creating his own chances.

If true, I'd imagine that's related.

ewocky said...

Link for the alleged tweet (grabbed from SBI comments): http://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/klinsmann-interview.1975680/#post-26529651

Jolazo said...

So much for guys having to be playing and performing to get a call-up. Boyd and Gomez have been on the bench for past 3 weeks prior to this weekend, while Jozy's been the most in-form player in the pool.

dikranovich said...

the real important issue here is that the strikers that are brought in, do perform at a high level.

Mike said...

Its not like he was going to start, that would be Gomez. JK probably rates Gordon/EJ higher than Jozy as a late game sub too

dikranovich said...

i like this lineup, sacha with a call up as well.

Greg Seltzer said...

Not buying it. No one could possibly rate Gordon/EJ higher than Jozy. The mere notion is beyond ludicrous.

Mike said...

I don't rate them higher, I can just see them offering something different than Jozy in these upcoming games(EJ- speed, Gordon- holds ball up, been a great sub for SJ). Still think Jozy should have been called.

Greg- do you think Jozy's tweet had something to do with it?

Matt said...

So then we have to assume there's more here than we will be made privy too. Unless we believe Klinsi is just an idiot, which I don't think anyone does. I think he's just sending a message to Jozy that no one's spot is guaranteed.

dikranovich said...

jozy needs an atitude adjustment, sorry, but that is a fact. one thing you do not do, under any circumstances, is force your team to play two men down.

publicly calling out your coach, that might not help either.

Greg Seltzer said...

@ Mike: No one in their right mind would think those things, either. And I do not know why this is happening. It's completely ridiculous.



@ Matt: Sending a message that no one's spot is guaranteed? Now? You are reaching to the point of dislocating your shoulder, my friend. Let's go with the we're not privy thing.



@ dikranovich: At what point do you bother to learn the definition of the word "fact"? And look up the meaning of "force" while you're at it. Good grief.

Alex Larsen said...

I would say the statement: "Jozy needs an attitude adjustment" is fiction, not fact.

dikranovich said...

gregory, please, stop acting like an infant. we are grownups here and we are talking soccer. jozy is a great talent, but he has a petulant atitude and i think that is very clear.

he has done nothing special for the usa team in the past year and that speaks as loudly as anything. what, he does not want to get with klinsmanns program? that makes a heck of a lot of sense. jozy, get off your high horse son, az alkmaar aint even in the top half of the table. so he has some goals against weak stiffs, the first game against ajax, withstanding.

dikranovich said...

alex, do you think freddy adu needs an attitude adjustment?

Greg Seltzer said...

By what conceivable metric have I acted like an infant?

Matt said...

@Greg: Stuff we're not privy to and "sending a message" are not mutually exclusive, I'm guessing. And--to be clear--I agree it's ludicrous to not call your best people at this stage of qualifying. But, I suppose the counter-arguments are -- it's Antigua, Klinsi seems to favor Gomes right now, and Klinsi seems to have some issues with Jozy's game.

Greg Seltzer said...

I hate to break it to you, Matt, but each and every one of Klinsi's supposed roster-calling "guidelines" are piffle. They all have contradictory anecdotes. I think he makes it up as he goes, case by case.

dikranovich said...

i think jimmy johnson summed it up best when he said " i treat all players the same, differently."

Matt said...

@Greg: The interesting thing to go cross-check would be to see if he was making the same seemingly wingnut roster selections during Germany's prep for the last WC. Perhaps there's a method to the madness. I just assume there's a reason why Jozy's not coming, and it's probably a good reason, because Klinsi (I truly hope), wouldn't cut off his nose over some silly reason, just to spite Jozy.

Alex Larsen said...

I don't know I don't follow Freddy very closely.

Mikey B said...

Klinsi est verrücht!

Gordon over Jozy?

Klinsmann has been a huge mistake since day one. Lucky friendly wins can't mask the fact that he is not up to the task. He has all the judgment of a teenager and the tactical acumen of an AYSO coach.

TrueCrew said...

Well, let me help your mind a bit, Greg.

1) Altidore hasn't scored for the US in what, almost a year? Over a year?

2) He's already justifiably lost his starting spot to Gomez.

3) Jozy put in a flat our lazy 10 minute shift against Jamaica in a WCQ match we had to have. His laziness and petulance isn't good for a lone striker setup.

4) Jozy isn't very good in the air, thus he's not a great #9.

5) Thus, if we play 4-5-1, he is not a starter.

6) If we play 4-4-2, and Jozy isn't that effective leading the line, he could play as the 2nd striker, but Landon and Clint are better, and Gomez has been more productive.

7) So why bring a guy along who isn't going to start, and isn't going to try, and is going to keep popping off at the mouth the whole time?

This has been coming for a while, and long overdue in my opinion.

Jozy's club form has been excellent (and he's been benched several times by Verbeek as well). Jozy's Nat form has been poor, and recent effort has been even poorer.

JK knows Gordon and EJ will bust their humps if they get in there. Jozy just flat out hasn't been doing that lately. Thus, he gets to watch on TV.

WHAT? said...

On form, he should be picked. Remember though, this is at least the third manager who Jozy has had trouble with. Remember his time with Hull? Weren't questions about his commitment and didn't he show up late to practice? Didn't the AZ manager drop him due to effort? Isn't the reason he made it back into the lineup so quickly because the guy in front of him was injured? Klinsi deserved to be questioned on this, but we also need to look at Jozy's track record.

dikranovich said...

i really think these next two games are like the perfect marriage for ej and the national team. tiny island nations and a home game in kansas city. johnson to johnson, that combo is good for at least two goals these next two games.

Greg Seltzer said...

You are not helping, True Crew, you're politicking. Allow me to rebut.

1 - All US strikers have scored exactly two run of play goals in 11 games this year. And for the gazillionth time, how many opportunities has the team created for them?

2 - Is that the Gomez who hadn't started a club match or scored a club goal in two months until Saturday? And the one who has 584 USMNT minutes in 2012 compared to Altidore's 227?

Ya know, it's funny, but he started the Jamaica loss and played 18 more minutes than Altidore did that night. He also came up completely empty in the Guatemala qualifier, but I don't see any of you guys blasting him every five seconds over anything that comes to mind, regardless of team context or fairness.

3 - Hmm... maybe you should tell that to AZ. :/

4 - Not only is your transitive logic horribly thin (playing in the air is the sole indicator of #9 acumen?), but I can't begin to agree. What's more... when were all these good USMNT crosses he wanked on?

7 - What planet are you on? Should we only bring 11 players now? He definitely won't try and definitely will pop off at the mouth? Pray tell, what mouth pop-offs have we endured so far? Good grief.

I'm sorry, but is Altidore the only player you have beef with for poor recent performance? Do you include any factor of the poor build play and poor build position filling by the coach? You flat give away your anti-Altidore bias by saying you've wished for him to be benched for a long time. I wonder, how long exactly is that you've felt this way?

dikranovich said...

i saw altidore getting pushed off the ball against jamaica for about the third time in as many minutes, and i wanted to puke. it was disgraceful. blogga please!!!

Greg Seltzer said...

Oh well then... I mean, if he committed a couple turnovers just after entering that one game with 10 minutes to play, then yup he's terrible! That's all it takes.

On an unrelated note, all soccer players ever in the world are terrible.

dikranovich said...

its about the effort, and it just was not there. no effort equals no callup. and being an idiot doesnt help his cause either

Greg Seltzer said...

And he's an idiot! Makes no effort! None!

Seriously, the vitriol and venom that gets shoveled at all of our players sooner or later from a sizable crowd of so-called USMNT "supporters" is downright vomitous. You bad-mouthers should all go root for Mexico.

dikranovich said...

now that is just wrong greg

dikranovich said...

that is so wrong, it aint even funny. i think coach klinsmann was going to call in altidore, but his red card yesterday was the straw that broke the camels back, and thats just my personal opinion, that might not actually be factual.

Greg Seltzer said...

Yes! THAT is just wrong! Whereas calling one of our players an idiot is a sweet honey kiss.

Too bad for you then... I am sick to death of supposed USMNT fans viciously running down every player we have. That is not support.

dikranovich said...

oh these poor players need to be coddled. this is a players union that has threatened the federation with strikes what, twice in the past five years. please greg, spare me.

this is silly, because you are questioning every motive and thought process of the mens team, that it is not even funny. he cant play here, he is better there, the teams needs to catch up to this players play, blah, blah ,blah, blah, blah.

and now my man wants me to go root for mexico!!!WTF

Greg Seltzer said...

Right! Because me analyzing and offering opinions on play, formation, selection, etc. is exactly the same as calling Altidore an idiot, Bradley spending five years with shrieking cries of nepotism, Donovan forever being called soft/chicken/uninspired, Gooch being buried every five minutes, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc ad nauseum!

Try harder. I was making a point with the root for Mexico crack. And I stand by it 1,000,000%.

dikranovich said...

its kind of ironic, that two players that have been in the line of fire in the past, have come full circle, and now, even though ej had to let the cat out of the bag early, these guys get a chance at redemption. all the usa fans care about with regards to ej, is that he scores goals. and with kljestan, it is that he comes in and contributes in a very positive fashion.

im not really sure what your point is, except maybe that we should be coddling players more. let me go read your latest post a little closer.

dikranovich said...

and again you have misquoted greg. calling someone an idiot, and being an idiot, it is different and without the context, you can make it personal, when it is not.

Greg Seltzer said...

Of course! *I* made it personal when *you* said he was being an idiot!

And FYI, master of idiot recognition:

"The tweet people are referring to had nothing to do with Jurgen," Altidore said. "When I realized there may be some confusion, I deleted it."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/soccer/10/08/us-soccer-jozy-altidore.ap/index.html?eref=sircrc

dikranovich said...

altidore WAS an idiot when he picked up a second yellow, already short handed, that should not be in dispute.

the fact that he is backtracking from a tweet, well, it aint the first time.

Greg Seltzer said...

Right!!! Altidore was an idiot when he got the second yellow to his back having walked 10 feet away!

Go root for Mexico.

dikranovich said...

and you better stop believing everything another brick in the wahl and the e-ching publish

Greg Seltzer said...

dikranovich-ionary...

Support (n) - calling your player an idiot/liar based solely on an inaccurate recount and baseless assumption

dikranovich said...

the e-ching, the master of secret sources. its more like secret sauces, with too much msg.

Jolazo said...

Uninformed opinions as facts, name-calling, and racism. You hit the trifecta there, dikranovich.