Friday, November 9, 2012

Woot, there it is. (updated)

Sandhausen sub Andrew Wooten provided their sole highlight as the 10-man hosts lost 6-1 to Hertha Berlin. The attacker, on loan from Kaiserslautern, finished a fine move on 75 minutes - at the time, cutting the lead to two with his first strike for the loan employers.

UPDATE: Wooten's goal play starts at the 1:35 mark.





- Greg Seltzer

35 comments:

Tony M said...

Greg, any thoughts on the report that Chandler will be called in for the Russia game? Is he just trying to showcase himself for Germany yet again?

Greg Seltzer said...

If it's true, great. But this meme with him using it for Germany attention is ludicrous. Not only is it rudely presumptive to a wild extent, Bundesliga play is light years ahead of some US friendly if he wanted to do that. The way some fans talk about Chandler bothers me to no end.

And sadly, one will probably be along any moment to chime in...

Tony M said...

It is not at all a comment about quality of play. I meant it more along the lines of him sending a message that if Germany wants him, they need to act now because he is flirting with Uncle Sam again.

If he does stay with us, I am psyched. But I don't think you can fault a US fan for wondering what is going on in his head, can you? There have been reports that he was holding out for a German call up. So a friendly that doesn't cap tie him raises questions.

Matt said...

Much easier to tar, feather and run him out of town than to come to the grips with the fact it might just be that Chandler is young and having a hard time figuring out what is important to him. Unlike most twenty-somethings who have their whole lives figured out the day they leave college.

I agree this whole meme is beyond ridiculous. He'll either play for us, or he won't. And if he doesn't it's not because he's a rat bastard that only showed interest in playing for the US because of some wildly convoluted scheme to get Jogi Low to notice him.

Greg Seltzer said...

First of all, there have been reports that say all kinds of BS things.

Now, wondering what's going on with him is one thing. When people assume the nefarious worst, vilify the guy based on their assumptions and make some of the nasty comments I've seen, that's quite another.

Too often, people raise questions that support their cynical view. Germany doesn't want him, he has never said he wants to switch, Klinsi wouldn't go for him if it was a path to Germany and he needs to earn his way to a cap-tie at this point.

The good news is he has suddenly been playing better the last few weeks.

Matt said...

It's too late, Greg. Chandler is dead to the American soccer fan. It's time to focus and freak out about obscure Icelandic and Japanese players who once set foot on American soil 15 years ago.

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Greg Seltzer said...

I saw a BigSoccer post that stated Klinsmann should hand Johansson an ultimatum. Folks are crazy.

Tony M said...

Matt, I assume your comment is general and not at me for asking the question. I would love for him to commit. I'll tell you what my major concerns is that if JK has called him in without securing a commitment, he is wasting an important tune up. If he has secured the commitment, I tip my hat.

Matt said...

@Tony M: not in any way directed at you. I, too, was interested in hearing Greg's take on the Chandler situation. I care a lot. He's good, and we could use him.

But in the process of trying to build out our player pool, I think people have become completely disconnected from reality. It would be funny, but for the fact that some people seem to lose all sense of perspective and nuance (e.g., Rongen will forever be the dumb bastard that let Subotic get away).

Alex Larsen said...

Chandler isn't dead to me.

Matt said...

@Alex: That's because you're a rational human being. And because we're not having this discussion on BigSoccer.

dikranovich said...

chandler was offered a place with the us national team. he rejected that offer. twice!!! say whatever you will, but that is strange and a sign of indifference, which is not needed in the national team setup.

his case is only more highlighted by the fact that we have three players in williams, boyd, and left back, who all fall into about the exact same circumstance and they are ready to bleed for the USA.

there should not be a thing wrong with a fan who does not want a player who is not willing to bleed for his country, adopted or otherwise. give me marvell wynne every day of the week over cant handle her.

Greg Seltzer said...

Aaaand there it is.

We know your position on Chandler, so there's no need to repeat it.

dikranovich said...

i surely would have responded earlier, except i was at the new bond film.

strago said...

Sometimes I wish this blog hadnt gotten so popular.

Sorry Greg.

dikranovich said...

strago, no need to be so self indulgent. as if the site has changed because of the commentary. and if it has, it is obviously for the better.

what, you see lesser quality coming from gregs reporting? why dont you think about spreading the love, instead of trying to hog it all for your self.

dikranovich said...

well, i guess chandler is on the team. again!!!

BTM said...

Greg- Do you have any read on whether JA Brooks is leaning towards playing for the US or Germany?

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429b1d1c-d365-11e0-bed0-000bcdcb8a73 said...

@Dikranovich: You rather have Wynne over Chandler? Wow you're a troll! Well he's back with the USMNT so you and the rest of the Zimmerman's will just have to deal with it and move on!

John said...

@BTM: He said in a recent interview that his heart beats more for team USA, hopefully Klinsmann calls him up soon because he has been doing really well for Hertha Berlin.

Alex Larsen said...

@Matt: You really know how to make me blush

dikranovich said...

bottom line on chandler and every national team player, is they have to earn the respect from the fans. chandler has yet to do that, and it is fair to say, he might have done just the opposite by rejecting callups. regardless of his reason.

Greg Seltzer said...

Nooooo, the bottom line is you and the other USMNT fans with delusions of grandeur do not actually set the bottom line. Or get to invent your own facts.

dikranovich said...

so as a fan, i have no say? you are off your rocker son. dude, ive been batting you around for months. just keep talking smack.

Greg Seltzer said...

Say in what exactly?

dikranovich said...

a say in whether or not i am going to support chandler, or any other player. i dont have to supprt chandler just because you say you had an interview with him and he promised you he would play for the usa. he has stood usa up twice. that is a undisputable fact.

Greg Seltzer said...

I don't recall questioning your say in supporting that player. Do you?

dikranovich said...

i dont know, what are you questioning then? the fact that every national team player has to earn my respect. are you questioning that?

Greg Seltzer said...

No. As seemingly always, I'm questioning your judging ability and games with facts. When you endlessly claim assumption or opinion as fact, I can't even muster the enthusiasm to reply anymore. It's tiring. And disturbing. I mean, why so exceedingly, intentionally harsh on players that are supposed to be in your "support" jurisdiction?

And THEN, if that's not good enough, you endlessly pretend you don't understand the bristling of myself and numerous others. That might be the worst part. Seriously.

We absolutely have your position down on this matter, and we get that you are not up for listening to anyone else's, least of all mine. And in the end, neither of our takes matters one wit, because neither of us is Chandler or Klinsmann.

Greg Seltzer said...

Here is a bottom line for you and all those that have been slamming Chandler for months on end, questioning whether he is a legit US international, etc etc:

I assured that he'd back in a US shirt and now he is indeed coming back. Drive home safely.

dikranovich said...

lol, ok, i am home now. as we all know, playing against russia dont mean squat as far as being cap tied. call me when he accepts that honduras callup.

chandler is needed, but then again, he really isnt. and no matter what, he will always be playing for the respect of the us national team fan.

dikranovich said...

you know, just on face value, when a guy does not want to fight to put on that usa jersey, that should be a red flag, and thats just the way it is.

so now chandler has more to prove.

Greg Seltzer said...

Ah yes, on the surface... where all the full truths openly lie!

:/