Thursday, December 6, 2012

Goal scored byyyy nuuuumber 20! (updated)

Helsingborg attacker Alejandro Bedoya bagged his second Europa League goal in a 3-1 win at FC Twente tonight. I've actually not seen it yet, but you will when I do.

UPDATE: Took a while, but here we are...






- Greg Seltzer

14 comments:

JRue22 said...

Greg,
Do you see Ale being brought back into the MNT picture anytime soon? I always liked him as an attacking option but he seems to be overlooked by Klinesman.

Greg Seltzer said...

With him now playing in all-out attack for Helsingborg, I suppose it's possible. The problem is that his true position (the #8) has a USMNT logjam ahead of him and I don't think he quite has the toolbox to play a #10 at the top international level.

dikranovich said...

greg, come on dude, a #8? please, ale is a wide attacking player, stronger on the right. but i guess if you say his true position is an 8, we all gotta go with that.

Greg Seltzer said...

You don't have to go with anything... but I'm right.

dikranovich said...

holland is a heck of a lot closer to scandanavia than the big show.

Paul Poenicke said...
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Paul Poenicke said...

Dikranovich responds with the weak non sequitur, and possible ad hominem, completing another thumping by Greg.

I probably disagree with Greg on this point, but Dikranovich, insults and logical fallacies cannot be used as evidence or premises of a logical argument. Pull stats Ale has played for the nats and his club sides. Look for trends--shots on goal, passes completed, ect.--that show he is better suited as a winger. At the very least, he has looked better at an attacking wide position than the many failed projects Klinsi has tried.

Greg Seltzer said...

The best Bedoya has ever played was his last season at Orebro and his later shifts for Rangers, which came from midfield. He's not a blow by you attack guy, he's a get dirty in traffic guy.

dikranovich said...

maybe we are focusing on numbers too much. 6,8, 10, are they really that much different?

when you get a player like michael bradley, he can probably play any one of these positions pretty well, and might end up playing center half before it is all said and done.

this bedoya situation, i dont know where pauls venom is coming from, it sounds like he thinks ale is an attacking mid also, but he did not commit to him being wide or in the middle.

it seemed like bedoya was playing a wide midfield spot for the us mens team and he did pretty well there. i dont know anything about non sequitors and ad homnium

Greg Seltzer said...

Is there a difference between $6, #8 and #10? Hmm... well... is there a difference between Frank Rikjaard, Mark van Bommel and Wesley Sneijder?

dikranovich said...

totti with a corkscrew of a shot. bradley is looking very nice today, in the center of all the action.

he does not have a goal or an assist, but his play has been crucial. he sparked the last goalbefore the half by stealing the ball and creating the outlet that gave totti his second.

you cant put a number on bradley because he can pretty much play anywhere and would succeed.

dikranovich said...

i get your point greg, snyder and van brommels are not the same type of player. you are of course using the dutch system. you go to the italian system or the german system and there is less disparity between these three positions.

center midfield is center midfield! by definition, you need to be able to play on both ends of the pitch, and both sides.

dikranovich said...

this is turning into an interesting converstation, because when you apply these numbers to the usa national team, we find that the players are very similar between the three positions, for better or for worse. how about a 6,8,10 of jones, holden, and bradley

playing with totti will only turn bradley into an eagle eyed surgeon, if he isnt already.

Greg Seltzer said...

Yeah. And the midfielder who plays both sides is called a #8.