Wednesday, December 19, 2012

How gauche.

Is it just me or is this hella-weird? Somebody explain to me what Raymond Domenech is doing. And then promise me he won't ever be USMNT coach.




- Greg Seltzer

17 comments:

Jason Davis said...

My guess -- and it's only a guess -- is that he was joking about finding an easy job somewhere and picked the US because of the streak of World Cup qualifying. There's obviously an inherent dig at CONCACAF.

In other words, I don't think he was serious about wanting to be USMNT head coach.

Matt said...

No way that man is ever coach of the USMNT, after the 2010 debacle. Dom Kinnear or Jason Kreiss are next up.

Tony M said...

If I could wave a magic wand, the next US coach would be David Moyes.

Really, he's perfect. Great expereince and understanding of US players, well organized teams, and gets more return on his players than he has a right to. Hell, I'd have him start tomorrow!

dikranovich said...

tony M, do you think david moyes has a lesser or greater understanding of american players, than the current coach, coach klinsmann?

Phil McCracken said...

Domenach is also a big believer in astrology which is anothe reason to avoid him like the plague.

dikranovich said...

well phil, 2013 is the year of the snake, so technically, he could get the job, but 2014 is the year of the horse, so its a small window.

Mike said...

"In other words, I don't think he was serious about wanting to be USMNT head coach."

Are you sure? This is Raymond Domenech we're talking about, after all.

I know it could never happen and yet I felt genuine terror as I was reading the story... just the thought of that man coaching the US is enough to nearly induce panic.

Tony M said...

dikranovich, I think less, and I think that because I believe Klinsmann would rather be clever than right. I think his starting Gomez over Altidore is a great example of this.

I also think that very great players like him often make poor coaches because they simply see a differnt game than the rest of us. I think Moyes, clearly an intelligent coach, is probably a much better communicator than JK.

Tony M said...

clarification: I meant to say that I think Moyes has a greater understanding, and JK less. What I wrote is confusing. Sorry

dikranovich said...

im sure moyes is decent, but for the us national team? coach klinsmann has been watching american players since the days when bruce arena was coach, up close. its hard to believe a british coach is going to have better understanding of american players than this guy, but maybe.

has moyes really overachieved at everton? he has a great goalkeeper, and he has several england internationals on his backline, along with other strong players in the back. moyes has a fellani and that guys is pretty much a beast and he has real quality at striker.

waving the magic wand for what is pretty much a middling coach from the epl, i dont know. tony M, would you rather have moyes, or bielsa?

Brian B said...

I have been following Everton religiously for 10 years. Moyes has overachieved, and then some.

Nobody in world football gets more bang for their buck. Shrewd pickups like Baines and Jagielka (the English Internationals alluded to earlier) make it abundantly clear.

Year in and year out, Everton punch above their weight.

However, do shrewd investments mean a lick in international football? No sir.

dikranovich said...

brian b, you will know that moyes sold wayne rooney. james beattie, and andy johnson, im not sure you can call those shrewd pickups and they were for club record transfer fees.

i just dont see moyes doing much, everton usually start out slow and then pickup and finish well above religation. they made it into europe a couple of times, but never did much.

then again, moyes could be good, he is a former central defender, he is scotish, and he knows some of the big american players, and as a bonus, maybe he could get mcbride to come out of retirement.

UnitedDemon said...

"At the same time, it is easy in North America: there are only two games to qualify for the World Cup. South America is already a paradise, but the North is even better! You play Canada, Mexico. You'll walk in the Islands," he said.

This is by far the silliest thing I have ever heard.

Brian B said...

dikranovich, by "shrewd" I guess I'm referring to his ability to typically buy low and sell high. Arteta came in for 2mil, left for 10mil, Andy Johnson let for more than what we paid for him, Lescott, etc..

dikranovich said...

BB, i get what you are saying, but really, a team with limited funds is expected to buy low and sell high, so, this does not seem like much of a talent, and like you said it has not much to do with the international game.

to me, coach klinsmann did not like what he was seeing from altidore and he benched him and i think the coach hopefully proved his point, which is that no player is above the team. the coach wants more effort from jozy and the coach wants jozy to learn how to fit into the scheme that the us national team is running.

usa has a good setup and if this group can build towards something larger, that can work with any number of pieces, then we will see something very nice.

sometimes i think we spend too much time wondering who should go where, and which coach would be best, and what if we had this player or that player, and these conversations are missing out on the larger picture.

Tony M said...

Any club coach stepping up to a national team is a gamble. I just have the sense from watching Moyes over the years that he would be a great fit for the US.

As for Klimsman, he was my favorite player and I very much wanted him to take the US job. But I have been very unimpressed, and worse, I see some of the criticisms that dogged him with Germany and BM being borne out here. Frankly, if he drops the first two games in the hex, he needs to be fired. Alas, i suspect Moyes won't be available just then...

dikranovich said...

tony, so if he does drop the two games, who do we go with as the national team coach? this would be in a pinch i take it.

seriously, those first two games are not going to be easy, none of them are.

well, altidore had some real competition today and he came up empty at home. ive been playing some good soccer with AZ on '13 and they have some good players, but they are in like 12th place, but they are only three points off of a european spot. go figure!!!!