Saturday, July 13, 2013

"Altidore is one of the top strikers in Europe."

No no, I did not say that... Sunderland manager Pauli Di Canio did.

I did, however, tell you he felt that way a few days before the deal and now have another Jozy Altidore-based revelation to offer: I'm actually wondering if my third annual estimate for his Prem goal total is too conservative. Yay or nay?

Either way, I'm quite confident a reasonably healthy Altidore can surpass my bare minimum prediction.






- Greg Seltzer

14 comments:

Tony M said...

Greg, under my other nom de internet, Tony in Quakeland, I predicted 25 goals across all comps his first year in Holland. I was mocked. :-)

Next year I predicted 35. Mocked again - although a little less so this time.

This year, my first thought was 15 in the league, 3 in cup comps. I feel good about that. I can also see him going on a streak that pushes the number a little higher. But I'm going with 18, over/under set at 15

Greg Seltzer said...

With AZ, I made predictions based on all competition. With Sunderland, I'm just going for a league total because I feel like it's impossible to tell how many cup games they will get. They could have two, with him playing in neither because it's early round stuff - or they could have 12, with him playing an extra 7-8-9 games.

But yeah, I also took some mocking the first time around, jabs of "fanboy" or whatever. Oddly enough, most of the smart mockers have quieted down since. ;)

Tony M said...

Yeah, you were pretty much my only ally a couple years ago.

I'm feeling better about this move now primarily because Di Canio seems to have a such a conviction in him. That's huge for a young player.

dikranovich said...

once again, Beckerman, classiest player on the pitch. mix is in the mix too, and shea needs a new hairdo. holden too. wondo is wonderful, but I think jack mac needs some time against costa rica.

Conor said...

Do you know of any Americans whose club is in the 2nd qualifying round of the Champions league or Europa League?
I spy Rosenborg and Molde, is that it?

dikranovich said...

replay of USA is on right now on fsc. today was donovans 147 cap, which means if we want him to pick up his 150, in honor of Gettysburg, in the finals of this gold cup, he needs to sit out the costa rica game.

what a double blessing this is, as we can beat down the ticos without LD and that scars them deeply and lets them sit in our back pocket.

Unknown said...

Paul Sarahs just crushed Jozy on World Football Phone In. Predicts he will be on the bench by November. Said the Eredevise is set up to get number 9s goals and he won't score more than 8 in England. Reactions, Mr. Seltzer?

Greg Seltzer said...

I don't know who that is, but he clearly does not understand Eredivisie play, which is set up (often by the #9) to get goals from a variety of players.

Greg Seltzer said...

Oh, what am I saying?!? Of course, we all remember when noted #9 Michael Bradley scored tons in the Eredivisie, only to never meet that output again.

:/

Ben Hastings said...

Paul Sarahs is a commentator for Eredivisie so I think he knows a little bit about it, not to mention he is the European football correspondent for the world football phone in, replacing none other than Andy Brassell on the program. For every van Nistelrooy or Suarez, there are the Mateja Kezman and Dirk Kuyt and Afonso Alves. The league absolutely is set up to get #9's goals, I'm not saying Altidore will be a flop necessarily though he struggled in both in England in Turkey in the past, both more physical leagues, Paul's point was that he thought Swansea did a much better piece of business in signing Wilfried Bony for close to the same price

Greg Seltzer said...

Oi vey...

1 - It seems he's demonstrated that "a little bit" is the extent of his Eredivisie knowledge. The Dutch system is NOT set up just to throw all goals at the #9, not in any respect. And if you check any scoring chart from any season, you will see wingers and midfielders all over the top 10.

2 - "For every van Nistelrooy or Suarez, there are the Mateja Kezman and Dirk Kuyt and Afonso Alves."

What fresh nonsense, especially when including Kuyt, who played quite well for Liverpool and almost always not as a striker.

3 - Altidore did not struggle in England nearly as badly as the English claim AND he was 19 at the time with very little experience on a shit team. As for Turkey, he struggled even less, with the main difference in his low goal total being that he was played out on the flank - not that anyone in English commentary seems aware of this nugget.

4 - If he thinks Bony is the superior forward, more power to him. But he's wrong.

Greg Seltzer said...

One more thing: if Paul can find a league in the world with a greater amount of success for goal scorers moving to the top four leagues, he can feel free to point it out. However, he may wish at this time to realize that Eredivisie products have won the last two EPL Golden Boots, five in the last 20 years and finished second another four times. In addition, they have won 13 Golden Boots in ENG/ITA/SPA/GER over the last 20 years, which no other league comes close to.

projectzeus said...

10 months on. Bony has scored 16 PL goals while Dozy Jozy has scored 1. Maybe Paul Sarahs knows what he's talking about??

Greg Seltzer said...

If all things were equal, maybe. As is, I will just say that I am smart, but not psychic. Still, I wonder how many he would have if Sunderland played the way they have the last few games all season long.