Monday, July 29, 2013

Dear USMNT Fans,




And yup, it's real.




- Greg Seltzer


24 comments:

Zach said...

Not a bad 24 hrs! Competition for WC14 is heating up.

Micah said...

Greg, Can you give those of us who dont know much about Aron a bit of a scouting report on his play and where he would stand in the depth chart? I would appreciate it.

Greg Seltzer said...

That's all coming soon, Micah.

Micah said...

Thanks Greg

dallen said...

That leaves Julian Green and Gideon Zelalem and we'd have all of our dual-nat wishes come true.

Gotta give Jurgen credit. He's doing a great job identifying, contacting and integrating these guys.

BTM said...

Gedion Zelalem is not a US citizen (as far as I know).

Greg Seltzer said...

Zelalem is not a US citizen, he only has a green card. And I'm pretty sure he sees himself as a Germany player at this time anyway.

Desert Rat said...

Awesome. If he's good enough to earn a place, he's a lot more likely to sniff World Cups with the US than Iceland.

Randy Robinson said...

Greg, Is Aron coming in for the Bosnia friendly? The timing would seem to say so. Also is Shawn Parker able to come play a friendly with the US if called?

Micah said...

I believe Parker would have to file a one time switch in order to play for the US, as he has represented Germany at the youth level in official matches. I could be wrong though.

Jay said...

What's the word on Fabian Hürzeler? I heard he moved to Hoffenheim this summer, but is he still anywhere near the radar for the US (youth) pool?

jon said...

I welcome our new Icelamerican...oops...is that...um...Mr Paul Poenicke, can I get a ruling?

Anyway, best of luck to him in cracking the team. I've read a description of him (by none other than Will Parchman) as a younger, more athletic, Wondo-like poacher.

heythisisrobbie said...

Hypothetically, lets say Julian Green sees playing time at Bayern this year, at 18.

Where would he be from a World Cup perspective?

I would say starting over Zusi.

heythisisrobbie said...

Lower case jon, that is uncalled for. It connotes that Aron is cold and unfriendly.

jon said...

Re: Julian Green. I don't know about that. Let's say he does well this year, picks the US, and makes the trip to Brazil. He's a spark off the bench at best. And Zusi is probably a tactical sub off the bench -- maybe a spot starter.

Anyway, you should check out his dad, Jerry Green @jgreenSTPA , on Twitter. He's quite a character and captions every photo of his son with #USMNT

Michael F said...

stuart holden with a torn acl, per bolton's twitter.

Paul Poenicke said...

Nice to see Aron joining the US. A nice pick-up, even if he doesn't go to Brazil. One significant benefit of Klinsmann's coaching: his ability to recruit dual nationals. In an increasingly globalized world, this might become a real asset for coaches.

Paul Poenicke said...

@ jon and thisisrobbie: Sure, I can give you a ruling. But if I get it wrong, you have to tell me why.

I would suggest we shouldn't use 'Icelamerican' for similar reasons I explained in the earlier post about 'Germarican.' First, if we can refer to a person by name and not by some feature they share with others, it is probably better use the name than the feature, to honor the uniqueness of that person and to avoid making judgments based on some general, possibly mistaken, category.

Second, context is important for what a word connotes, a point nicely raised by heythisisrobbie. There is a difference between speaker meaning, meaning as how a person intends, and non-speaker meaning, the features of context, outside of a speaker's intentions, that might give a word additional meaning.

Saying that Aron is 'Icelamerican' really doesn't have much of a meaning outside of a person attempting to mash together Icelandic-American. If it was being used in a context of dispute or controversy, that term might have a negative connotation (especially when a person could simply use 'Icelandic-American' instead of using an uncommon mash-up.) The function of 'ice' in 'Icelandic-American' might mean cold and unforgiving--but not generally without significant context-dependence.

The early part of 2013 was a context when the ability and desire of German players was being questioned. Instead of considering whether Jones or Chandler or others were individually able or lacked desire, people started using a make-shift word, 'Germarican,' whose morphology ('germ') made it natural for creating a negative connotation for all members of a group. I can conceive of a similar point when 'Icelamerican' could be problematic--only in such a limited case (i.e. a controversy concerning a set of Icelandic-Americans not "warming up" to other players on the US national team).

Perhaps my general argument concerning 'Germarican' sounds weird because of its emphasis on context. And it does sound odd to think German Americans are being ridiculed simply by a simple word. But given the context and connotation of 'Germarican' in early 2013, I don't think the was irrational to think the term was being used in a misleading and wrongheaded fashion. I still think the term has negative connotations and believe it should be avoided.

heythisisrobbie said...

Paul, that is a great post and I agree with you. I personally use "Germericans" in an endearing context, and I do think that they bring some "haltung" to our team.

I also think it is OK to question some of these guys' motives based on what I read, actions, and body language. Hopefully I don't sound too xenophobic but I do believe that desire plays a big role in international soccer.

My shot at you above was just too easy, I didn't mean to be a "Dik."

jon said...

If anyone tried to use Icelamerican in a negative way to suggest Aron wasn't warming up to his teammates, I would have to immediately ridicule them for not knowing the old adage that "iceland is green and greenland is ice" and call them an Ignoramerican...

jon said...

Whoa boy, pop this url into your translator of choice and check out the Icelandic Football Associations response to Aron's choice.
http://www.ksi.is/landslid/nr/11127

Greg Seltzer said...

Can you post a decent translation? The ones I have are useless.

Bernardinho said...

The plot thickens!

Kraig Bauer said...

I was a JV coach of one of the main rivals of Walter Johnson HS, Gideon's high School. He looked good but did not wow me in the times I saw him. No real comment on him.

All of the players in these schools play with or against each other. I never heard any of my players mention that he had any intention of playing for the US.