Friday, August 2, 2013

Even Clint Dempsey got bored in college

This is a mindless gem. Apologies for the hours you'll lose on related videos.



P.S. Cap Trey Sullivan, now.

- Jacob Klinger

38 comments:

J.D. Springer said...

Speaking of Deuce? Seattle? Now? Really?

Jacob Klinger said...

Man, I don't know. McIntyre's pretty good though.

jon said...

Seriously. As of about half and hour ago, so very many things about this had me thinking there was no way this was going to happen. From wanting Champs League football to maybe not even making the MLS playoffs.

J.D. Springer said...

When Deuce said "Champions League," maybe he meant CONCACAF Champions League.

Jolazo said...

This is so disappointing.

dikranovich said...

victory is mine!!!! actually, it is a victory for all fans of MLS, even the ones we gotta drag kicking and screaming.

people, think for a minute, you got one, now use it. this puts our two top attacking options going into next summer on an easy schedule, leading into brasil. just so happens both guys are gonna be 30 plus and this is a good thing.

this move could also propel eddie Johnson to an even higher level. that would not be a bad thing.

dikranovich said...

what is the silver lining, in deuce signing with the MLS? you guys have to see something good coming from this? please, someone with a positive

Freegle said...

The silver lining is that now MLS can sell more tickets in one of their less successful markets... wait, never mind.

This move is strange on so many levels. Everything from Deuce's stated goals, to JK's stated preference of players challenging themselves at the highest level, to the fact that they couldn't get him much further away from his home geographically.

Jay said...

And easily the biggest incoming transfer fee in MLS history. I'm still not convinced that MLS can afford to have it's clubs forking over $9M on a single player. Or afford to offer a single player an $8M annual salary -- no one else in the league is even making $4.5M, and Henry and Cahill combined are still less than $8M. Lots of twitter chatter about fans getting upset with ownership if they don't fork over the same kind of money to compete.

downintexas said...

If MLS is going to be a top league by 2020, then things like this are going to be more common place. Shocking now but more to come in the near future!

This is a great move by MLS and a great move by the Flounders! MLS is on its way up! Don't be mad, just jump on the wagon have a drink and lots of fun!

downintexas said...

@Freegle, not sure if this is true but maybe he was not in the spurs plans. And instead of proving that he can play with some other EPL team he decided to come and play in MLS.

Plus JK says one thing but does another.

heythisisrobbie said...

Demp$ey

jon said...

I would say Seattle is in a league of their own with respect to what MLS clubs should be doing. They've got the same kind of money as NY or LA and they've got the important benefit if a huge, rabid fan base that is going to buy up a shit ton of ugly Dempsey jerseys and tempt ownership to open up the whole stadium for the rest of the season -- if not indefinitely. Don't get me wrong, I think it's crazy money, but they're uniquely poised to pull it off (and I'm a Portland fan that's sick to my stomach over all this).

Jay said...

I'm not the slightest bit concerned about Seattle's ability to pay. I'm incredibly concerned about other teams' ability to pay. It wasn't Cosmos who brought down NASL...

dikranovich said...

oh my gosh, seattle only have a home game tomorrow night against dallas. that is going to be some kind of atmosphere.

then there is aug 17 in Houston. wowzers, or the 25th Cascadia cup match against Portland.

prediction, MLS directicket sales jump 1000% this next week

jon said...

LA and NY have been paying guys too much with not always great returns for several years now. I don't see how this kind of spending within an otherwise capped league portends doom. And fans of other teams aren't going to seriously expect their owners to put down that kind of money. At least not yet. There aren't even realistic targets worth that much which of course is why this is such a coup.

Jay said...

Oh my gosh, yeah, that ITC is going to arrive in less than 24 hours, and oh gosh yeah, Dempsey hasn't played a competitive match in two months. He won't even suit up.

dikranovich said...

jay, you mean deuce is not going to be in the starting lineup tomorrow night?

Jay said...

@dik: No, I mean he won't even be on the bench tomorrow night.

@jon: I can see your logic, but I'm clearly on a different side of the worry line than you are. The only comparable salary in MLS ever, as best I can tell, is Beckham, but only because of his profit sharing deal. On the floated "Guaranteed Compensation" numbers, Dempsey doubles Beckham's going rate, and nearly doubles Thierry Henry's. I'm not convinced he's remotely the same sort of attendance draw.

When Beckham showed up there was a rash of DP signings. Yes, there was Blanco and Angel, but there was also Denílson, Claudio Reyna, and Marcello Gallardo. Rash decisions that crashed and burned. Yes, NYRB and LA have money behind them and can absorb a failed major signing. Dallas, New England, and Chicago... I'm not so sure. I'm just not convinced there's enough money floating around league-wide to start seeing a run up in transfer fees. Happy to be proven wrong, of course, and we'll see what happens with the next round of broadcast rights negotiations.

dikranovich said...

jay, I think most of the guys out there know that deuce is not going to be on the sounders bench tomorrow night, but I bet he is in the stadium, and that's all it takes to create a buzz.

im also happy to report that most people who say they will be happy to be proven wrong, usually already are.

this deuce to MLS is going to be bigger for MLS than beckham. when you are looking at salaries, maybe you should compare this deuce salary to mr posh spice. then we can see what the returns look like. deuce to MLS at 30 is big money for both sides. deuce to MLS at 35 is bad business for the league, good for deuce. this way it is a win win situation.

jon said...

I absolutely don't see a run on big transfer fee signings. My whole point is that it's unlikely we'll see other clubs splashing big cash like that because as you said several teams already took their lumps and learned, but also because a player that ticks all the right boxes and would command a huge transfer fee AND would come to MLS is super rare.

Cam said...

please tell me this isn't true!

jon said...

Spurs just confirmed a sale to MLS. All that's left is for Seattle to unveil him before today's game.

Jay said...

Dik, everyone, proving once again that he's just running off at the mouth.

I already compared Beckham's salary to Dempsey's. Dempsey will literally earn double what Beckham was pulling in guaranteed compensation. No one but LA, Beckham and his accountant know what he pulled from the profit sharing, but on salary Dempsey's $8M annual is double what Beckham earned. Got it?

@jon: Yeah, we'll see. One thing that I find super interesting about this whole bit is the wages. Dempsey was earning $7.4M annually at Tottenham -- he's getting a slight raise to come here. He was already the highest paid American in soccer, and by coming back to MLS he just became more the most highest paid.

This obviously isn't going to make players in the upper echelons of player salaries turn their heads -- but this is going to turn a whole lot more heads than MLS used to. It means there are good players, in their prime, who can come to MLS and make at least as much as they were earning in England, Spain, Germany, and so on.

dikranovich said...

oh no, jay, please don't talk yourself into thinking more good talent is going to come to MLS because of this. oh dear, what are we going to do?

dikranovich said...

can someone else name me a country that has half wit fans like here in the USA, where if their prodigal son was returning to the domestic league the fans would bemoan this? can someone name me one other country? besides Canada I mean.

this is crazy, the Japanese would rejoice the return of kawanga to their domestic league. does argentina welcome the return of requleme? you bet they do. all around the world people dream of and celebrate the return of their domestic products to their domestic leagues.

here in the USA, we have fans that don't know any better. they think they do, clearly, but how can the rest of the world all be wrong?

its a strange little schism in our soccer culture here in America norte.

dikranovich said...

jay, tell me beckham did not make 6.5 million guaranteed and tell me that is half of what Dempsey is going to be making, then tell me if im a liar.

because you, youre a cantaloupe!

jon said...

Wow, I almost spit out my tea reading Dik write "half wit fans." Anyway, what other countries' fans do has no bearing on what is an appropriate response--much like how all the pro/rel shriekers argument that "it has worked for the rest of the world for a hundred years so..." has nothing to do with soccer in America. Anyway, I would never presume to know what other countries' supporters think, but I am definitely aware of a similar negative reaction in Australia recently. I think it's a byproduct of both countries intently following the Premier League and having inferiority complexes about our own leagues. But once the shock wears off, people will be psyched about the increased talent in MLS.

jon said...

1. Dik writing "half wit fans like here in the USA." Ridiculous.
2. A similar response has been reported in Australia, though I wouldn't presume to know what people in other countries response would be...especially if you can't spell the names of some of their most celebrated players.
3. Nor should it matter since MLS and the US have our own unique relationship with global soccer and our own inferiority complex to work through.
4. All that said, MLS fans like myself will eventually get over our shock and be happy for the increase in talent. And the Americans that take every opportunity to shit on the league will continue to do so no matter what.

Tony M said...

Is Greg dead? Did the shock kill him? No comment yet...

Greg Seltzer said...

Yeah, I'm a bit baffled. I'll comment once I know what I'm talking about.

dikranovich said...

lower case jon, maybe you are right, half wit is a little strong, but if they are wrong more than half the time, it could be generous.

Australia could be the other caviat, along with Canada. you know dynamo Zagreb would welcome luka modric back to their team in a heart beat, even though he plays on one of the biggest teams in the world.

jon im in the toilet bowl with you. I mean RFK is the out house of stadiums in MLS, and the team is very fitting for it this year. but there is always next year. there is the us open cup, there is a new stadium on the horizon, just hope its not the event horizon.

and jay, yes, the cosmos did bring down the old NASL. directly.

Harris said...

Cravin Melon were a horrendous band in SC.

Greg Seltzer said...

See what I mean about assuming as fact, dikranovich? As both Ives and myself reported in early July and May, respectively, Tottenham was not trying to get rid of or transfer list Dempsey.

Booyah.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130805/clint-dempsey-seattle-sounders-mls/?mobile=no

dikranovich said...

lol, greg, come on, what does this story have to do with whether Dempsey was on seattles radar before july? even though this story tells us he was. where does it say tottenham was not shopping him before july 18th. I don't think it says that.

greg, I hope you are not trying to say spurs had him in their plans one day, then all of a sudden on july 18th said, ok, we will look at a bid that will give us slightly more than we paid for him just less than a year earlier.

because teams don't have players in their plans one day, then just decide to even the books out the next by selling a player for what they just paid for him.

Greg Seltzer said...

(sigh)

dikranovich said...

does it even matter, deuce is back in MLS.

dikranovich said...

but since you brought it up, ives on his latest podcast said he talked to lyle several weeks back and lyle said spurs were not desperate to sell deuce. so bale, desperate to sale, deuce on the loose.