Monday, August 12, 2013

Klinsi finally names 23 to Bosnia

I'm waiting for the day when the team appears in JabbaWockeeZ masks and the coach only reveals who played after the game. We're not there yet... but close enough, really. And, nothing personal against Cody Cropper or Brad Evans, but I also find it curious the lengths Klinsi will go to ignore Steve Clark and Eric Lichaj.

G - Cody Cropper (Southampton), Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton)

D - John Anthony Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Edgar Castillo (Tijuana), Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders), Michael Orozco Fiscal (Puebla), Michael Parkhurst (Augsburg), Tim Ream (Bolton)

M - Alejandro Bedoya (Nantes), Michael Bradley (AS Roma), Joe Corona (Tijuana), Mikkel Diskerud (Rosenborg), Fabian Johnson (Hoffenheim), Jermaine Jones (Schalke), Sacha Kljestan (Anderlecht), Danny Williams (Reading)

F - Jozy Altidore (Sunderland), Terrence Boyd (Rapid Vienna), Eddie Johnson (Seattle Sounders), Aron Johannsson (AZ Alkmaar), Bobby Wood (1860 Munich)








- Greg Seltzer

32 comments:

Freegle said...

Why would we have Eric Lichaj called up when we can call in a guy from seattle (5700 miles) and tijuana (6500 miles) instead?

Please do some digging. What did he do wrong? His exclusion is becoming more egregious each camp. I can put up with "he's not good enough" if it weren't for some of the others getting chances in his stead.

Jolazo said...

Is Timmy Chandler hurt again? That seems like a weird omission.

Glad Mix, Bedoya, MOF, and Corona got the call-up. They earned it in the Gold Cup.

Tony M said...

Greg, if you were setting a betting line on Brooks getting cap tied to the US, what would it be? (Yes, conjecture - no one will hold you to it)

Devin Mathias said...

Can't get cap-tied in a friendly...

Greg Seltzer said...

Until I hear different, I'll assume he's now in line to be cap-tied by the US.

dallen said...

I don't see Germany ever welcoming JAB back if he changes his mind. This is as good as a cap tie.

dikranovich said...

I don't think the lichaj omission is to strange. he is just getting going with forest and he is a starter and there is no reason to mess that up. coach klinsmann knows what the guy is capable of.

jon said...

Seeing as how Klinsmann has never called him up, while he has also called up many other guys that would appear to be of equal (or maybe lesser) quality, please elaborate on how you know that "coach klinsmann knows what the guy is capable of"?

The roster selection shows 2 or 3 RBs (or at least 1 RB and a guy that Klinsi has previously played at RB + a guy that Stoke sometimes plays at RB), so the simple solution would appear to be that Klinsi just doesn't rate Lichaj.

Desert Rat said...

Damn, I had Comment #5 in the "number of comments before dikranovich said something stupid in this thread" pool. Lost again.

It's amazing how dikranovich has such amazing insight into the inner workings of JK's mind when the majority of his (dikranovich, not JK) comments could best be categorized as vapid, and pollyanna-ish.

dikranovich said...

ok ok, relax fellas. one thing we can say is that pretty much whomever we have put at right back recently, they have held their own.

each and every player has their own unique circumstances. lichaj did not sleep with coach klinsmanns wife, and if he keeps starting and stays healthy, he will get his chance. and when he does get his chance, you can bet he will make the most of it.

cant you guys feel the dynamics of this team coming together? there is a real synergy within this team and I guess we will see how this group does in a couple days.


Tom said...

I usually don't get what you're talking abou dik, but now I KNOW that YOU don't, either: an unitonic use of 'synergy' is the truest mark of a lost and desperate soul.

dikranovich said...

vapid, Pollyanna-ish, unitonic. maybe we should just stick to simple English. lets try and keep it simple stupid.

im just looking to talk soccer here, I really don't know what you little girls are crying about.

Alex Larsen said...

when are you guys gonna learn with dik: don't feed the troll

Timmy said...

Is it me, or is this the first time Fabian Johnson has been listed with the midfielders? Am I reading too much into this? I don't think so.

dikranovich said...

timmy, f. Johnson is the best left back on this roster.

Timmy said...

He is also the best LM on the roster. And listed with the midfielders (for the first time, I believe).

Tom said...

dik, my post at 10:49 was a typo-fouled (and intended to be a gentle)joke. "Unitonic" was to be "unironic."

dikranovich said...

timmy, its always a good rule of thumb to focus on defense first on the road. do you really want to find out how bad edgar Castillo can get burnt by bosnia?

dikranovich said...

lets take a look at the starting lineup:

-----------the jozy----------
--ej------- sacha-------bedoya
--------Bradley----jj--------
--fj----jabrooks--Geoff----evans
---------captain----------

mix and jbc are close.

Timmy said...

dik - your tone can be so damn condescending. I'd argue that gritting out a win in a friendly on foreign soil is less important than getting players experience in their ideal position. That's my opinion. Your "rule of thumb" is yours. One that I'll disagree with.

dikranovich said...

timmy, really, you are arguing against a stronger defense and against winning. you need a verbal slap upside the head, and hopefully that will hit the re-set button.

"ideal position" get real dude. have you not been watching the USA team developing with players playing all over the place, and you want to comment about ideal positions trumping winning.

timmy, timmy, timmy.

Timmy said...

I don't know why I or anyone else continues to engage you, yet I (we) make the same damn mistake over and over again.

dikranovich said...

timmy, just admit that winning is more important than players playing in their "ideal positions", and I think we can move on.

Jacob Klinger said...

In a friendly?

dikranovich said...

ohh, mr helper, welcome to the discussion. winning is more important than the ideal position camp, be it a friendly, or the Olympics, or just a pick up game on the street.

yak, you are going to trip over your own feet one of these days, and I think you might find yourself on the right side of these conversations then.

Greg Seltzer said...

Ummm how is playing people in their proper damn position some fool's errand to you? Back when you got your way and half the line-up was out of position, we were not having 10-game win streaks. Now, finally Klinsi has most everyone in their optimum roles and we roll on.

But noooo, you insist on building straw men, as if any here suggesting sacrificing results to any end. Cripes sakes, man.

dikranovich said...

greg, last time I checked, dmb was not a life long fullback, nor was brad evans. what kind of BS are you trying to shovel.

you are on record as saying Geoff Cameron is best at center mid, so I guess that means he cant play central defense tomorrow, its not his ideal position, according to greg. lets put tim ream in there. maybe ream can play left back, he is not very fast, but Bolton has the insight on where he is best, and they would know.

winning is more important than playing in a players "proper" position. always!!!

Greg Seltzer said...

First of all, you need to recognize the difference between Belize/Cuba and real teams. Occasionally, situationally serviceable does not prove your point. And though he's improved, Beasley is still not a fullback, which he tends to display a couple times a game.

Next, I defy you to name the US match where Cameron played better in central defense than the one he played as a DM. You can't. Not even close. The guy himself would rather play DM. That being said, with Orozco Fiscal now out, sure I'd accept him in defense... but I won't expect his optimum performance.

Ream and Brooks are both left center backs. This matters. And Ream has played left back before, but I have not said one word suggesting he should play there for Bolton or the US.

Winning comes easiest from players playing in their proper roles. This is not a controversial comment.

Alexander Sassaroli said...

Greg, to your point,I would LOVE to see a central midfield pairing of Bradley and Cameron. Jones, I think, either lacks the tactical understanding or willfully disregards his role as part of a pair of pivots with the Nats. At Schalke he seems much more able to play as a pure 6, but with us there never really seems to be the you stay home/I go forward understanding with Bradley, or vice versa. Cameron seems much more able to pick this up.

One thing about developing into a really good national squad is being able to say that we may have to have some really really good players sit out games because they are redundant or don't fit into a system and Jones IMO is one of those guys. Would love to see Besler/Gonzalez and Cameron/Bradley but I am not getting any calls from JK so I guess I'll just put it here.

I do hope we see a 5 man midfield on Wednesday, though, to counter some of Bosnia's fluidity in the 4-4-2. Hopefully a 4-2-3-1.

dikranovich said...

id like to remind everyone that there was a time not to long ago that winning on European soil was pretty much unheard of for our national team.

maybe it was a game in krackow that changed some fortunes for the USA. then after that, it was you had to beat a big team on euro soil. we have accomplished that little feat as well. we have to wait until 2017 at the earliest to have a chance to win on euro soil in a game that counts.

all the games count though and winning is always the goal, and it occurs when players play their roles properly

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Greg Seltzer said...

@ Alexander: I keep saying all the time, it's not necessarily the *best* 11 players who make the best team. The pieces need to fit together seamlessly and sometimes that might mean a guy like Jones is a sub because he doesn't like to stay home. And maybe we don't even really want him to because that's not what he does best.