Monday, March 24, 2014

What I Really Did Not Want To Deux

Let's get one thing straight: as soon as Lichaj proves operational, FabJo moves back to left wing on this clipboard. This whole thing where everybody and their mother assumes sight unseen that Julian Green can just walk in and take over left wing is cuckoo-go-nuts.

And to enhance Spector's chances, I would love to see him get some sort of look at defensive midfielder. Some of you may snort, but the guy is a pro; he'd probably figure out decent if you threw him at forward.

Fabian Johnson
Eric Lichaj
Jonathan Spector






- Greg Seltzer

29 comments:

dikranovich said...

wait, this is the left back spot???

downintexas said...

Greg, I agree with you on these three 110%. My worry is that JK has three different players in mind on his depth chart.

Unknown said...

Greg,

I'm with you on Spector. He plays RB, LB, CB, and DM. I believe he was originally recruited to ManU as a forward so your comment is more than fair. I think he deserves a serious look for the final 23.

TrueCrew said...

No Beasley? You are delusional.

Greg Seltzer said...

@ dikranovich:

Yes, it is. Why are you so surprised? This is the second time now I have moved him back due to selection woes.

@ True Crew:

What makes you think he won't appear at another position on this clipboard? :) I may be a lot of things, but delusional is not one of them.

Matt said...

Wait, so this is what you want? Or what you expect?

Greg Seltzer said...

This is what my depth chart would be as of right now if I was coach (bearing in mind that I do not actually get to see training or choose what they run in it).

This is in no way a prediction for the eventual roster or a guess at how Klinsi sees it all.

gonavy said...

Spector as a forward again, I like it! That could make an awesome story!

dikranovich said...

I guess I just don't get it. I mean right sided players on the left , midfielders in the defense, ahead of said right sided players.

These picks are like a complete 180 from what the debate was less than a year ago.

Whatever!!!

Greg Seltzer said...

Yes, we know there is much you do not get. On purpose. Relentlessly.

But if I recall correctly, less than a year ago we also had Chandler and Lichaj healthy, and expected Cherundolo back, and I was still giving Castillo a chance to earn my clipboard trust. Time marches on.

Paul Poenicke said...

Given the thinness and lack of experience at center back, where does Spector rank in your list of center backs? Spector has the experience of Gooch and has played more games this year than Gooch. Both have their strengths, so bringing Spector instead of Gooch, or likewise, may not be about preferring one player over the other. Still, filling out the final three or so players, it looks like the US will need either Gooch or Spector for defensive replacements. If only one of the players can head to Brazil, who do you pick? (I would assume you prefer Spector at center back than Bocanegra.)

Cathal said...

Good article in The Telegraph about bringing too many defenders:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10663062/Roy-Hodgson-must-eschew-too-many-defenders-and-load-Englands-World-Cup-squad-with-attacking-options.html

Obviously doesn't totally line up with how one creates a depth chart, but it speaks to the value of having someone like Spector, who - a lot like Cameron, and Edu to an extent - can fill in holes across a few areas of the pitch. Meanwhile, there's no need to bring all of Gonzo, Goodson, and Gooch if only one of them is going to start.

Greg Seltzer said...

@ Paul Poenicke:

Honestly, I do not really think of Spector at CB. It has been so long since he played any. So for me, he and Gooch are not competing for the same type of spot.


@ Cathal:

1 - For me, Edu is suitable at one position in a World Cup: DM.

2 - Every time someone says we do not need four CBs, I remind them of the fact that we would have had Pope and Berhalter suspended for the semifinal had the PK been called and we came back in extras to beat Germany in 2002. Now, some will find Cameron or Edu or somebody else as suitable CB cover. I, however, would certainly not want to go into a World Cup semifinal with them suddenly being asked to play CB. Yikes.

dikranovich said...

Greg, you are so silly, that exactly what Bruce did, he took three center-halfs to Korea/japan

Greg Seltzer said...

Berhalter, Llamosa, Pope, Agoos. And even so, look what would have happened in the semifinal. Plus Mastro played some CB cover back then, but even he was suspended if we got past Germany. Forever and ever, I would always take four CBs.

dikranovich said...

Yeah, I guess goose was a center back also, but only because of his advanced age. That back line in 2002 was pretty interchangeable. They would have managed if they advanced.

The truth might just be that right back is Cameron's third best position, and if that is the case, he might become ideally suited for a sub role.

Jermaine jones can get in KPBs head and soften him up for a fresh Cameron to come in around 60 minutes and lock game number one up.

dikranovich said...

hyper sensitive to "personal attacks", yet willing to launch his own with impunity.

J.G. Updike (@FixtureWire) said...

Regarding Omar, I haven’t seen him really lock down the CB position. I would assume I was with most people pushing for him to get a look by Jurgen when he was a one man back line for the Galaxy, but to be honest I’ve never seen him bring that form to the USMNT. Never mind that I don’t even think he is on that form now for the Galaxy either.

I still think our biggest issues are: 1) who will pair with Besler; 2) right back; and 3) LW/LM.

I think Johnson slotting in at RB solves more issues than it creates and functionally it makes more sense given the players involved. If Zusi is on the right wing it allows him the space wide he wants, and it opens the channel for Johnson to cut in as an inverted RB.

While watching Beasley defend is not for the faint of heart, he has done a good job at LB, and he provides a ton of offense from the position which we will need given our lack of talent at LM/LW (also hence why Green/Shea are more important to the squad than we want to acknowledge).

J.G. Updike (@FixtureWire) said...

However, scrap that entire analysis if Donovan is the one which gets the nod on the right because I think him and Johnson would just run over the top of one another and the pairing wouldn't make sense unless you were just trying to clog up the RW defensively.

Which has to at least be a consideration going in...

Greg Seltzer said...

@ JG Updike:

But Beasley has not provided much offense from left back, and increasingly less as his appearances there have piled up.


@ dikranovich:

No, I am not hypersensitive to personal attacks. I am hypersensitive to one person repeatedly coming here for no other reason than to be intentionally disruptive, dominate discussions with nonsense like Cameron being dropped to the bench and cajole my attention with negative behavior.

But fine, I will remove it.

dikranovich said...

does anyone else think Donovan could play left mid/ left wing? what kind of understanding would we see with a left side of dmb, and ld?

mr updike, I am not sure if you mean, clogging up the opponents right wing, or our own. it would be nice to figure out a way to clog up Ronaldo in that second game though.

dikranovich said...

thank you greg!!!

J.G. Updike (@FixtureWire) said...

@Greg

I think that is more a product of who is sitting in front of Beasley than his actual play.

@Dik

I think it would clog up the lanes for Ronaldo, but in doing so it would stymie our offense as well. It's a catch 22, because the majority of our attack from our midfield will come from center right of the pitch.

I would personally take my chances with Johnson/Zusi as opposed to Johnson/Donovan. This assumes Donovan doesn't play CAM, if he plays there it would be fine, it would just mean sitting Dempsey which I am all for anyways.

Greg Seltzer said...

I think it has more to do with him focusing extra hard to improve his defending. And he has, but the fatal mistakes are still there. In a short tournament, I want to avoid such things as much as possible.

John said...

I would like to see Garza get a look at LB since he has looked really solid for Tijuana. If he does get the call up I hope Tijuana releases him along with the other Americans, but they don't have to since it's not a FIFA date.

soccer boy said...

What does zac lloyd have to do to get a call up?

Greg Seltzer said...

Wait until the fall?

soccer boy said...

Damn lloyd is that far behind? What do you think of anthoney wallace and tony beltran as future U.S. Nat. Team members?

John said...

@soccerboy: Lloyd and Beltran have already gotten a look from JK in the past.