Tuesday, October 14, 2014

Your line-up v. Honduras

All kinds of weird going on here, by my eye. This should be peculiar, however it goes. Of course, USMNT player ratings will follow the game at MLSS.















- Greg Seltzer

24 comments:

Yankeedom said...

Pretty disappointed with this line up. Shouldn't Mix and Bradley (the bald eagle) switch places?

Jones as a CB?!? Why?
If he was 5 years younger, fine, "let's try him out at CB" but 1) if he's still in the picture come Russia 2018, I'd say we're in a bit of trouble. 2) if he's still in the picture as a CB come Russia 2018, I'd say we're in deep, deep trouble.

Are we really that bereft of viable CB talent, that we need to try out Jones in that spot? I simply don't get it.

Greg Seltzer said...

I am also quite confused about when the involvement of Chandler moved ahead of involving Yedlin.

dikranovich said...

I like it!!!

dikranovich said...

Coach is testing mix, and he is testing Bradley, by making them a little uncomfortable, and jones behind both of them.

dikranovich said...

Don't forget who assists that first goal with a pinpoint pass. Alfredo morals does not have that pass in his arsenal.

Tony M said...

There is no reason whatsoever to play Jones at CB, other than JK looking for a way to keep one of his favorites around in 2018.

And we get more of him playing guys in different positions because he's just smarter than everyone else.

justinwkoehn said...

I agree that Mix should play the 10 spot with Bradley gatekeeping. I think JK had a talk with Jermaine and said "Hey, if you want to be around for 2 or 3 more years, it probably won't be in DM. So let's either see what you can do at CB, or lets move on." I think he did a good job in the position tonight, but who knows what 35 yr old Jones will do.

downintexas said...

so how many different CB pairings has JK trotted out now?

Dany Tzvi said...

mario yepes started every game for colombia at the world cup this summer. he was and is 38 years old.

Yankeedom said...

@Dany
Yepes was converted to a CB at the age of 20, not 31 and Yepes is also the exception rather than the rule.

brian said...

more or less a meaningless game very early in the WC cycle, why not experiment to see what you have.

Zach said...

I knew Bradley would be playing further forward as soon as I received that Bradley Heerenveen Jersey in the mail yesterday. They finally found me! Thanks again, Greg

justinwkoehn said...

Most people viewed Bradley playing CAM as a negative, but what do you think about the stats listed in this article when he plays the role behind two forwards: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/10/14/armchair-analyst-three-things-we-learned-night-usmnt-experiments

downintexas said...

Justin, I just want Bradley on the field. For me he is a box to box player, regardless if he is more focused on attack or defense.

dikranovich said...

isnt it kind of funny to think of a central midfielder as anything but a box to box player. I mean, your a midfielder.

junior did not play a very good game last night, and I don't know, maybe he needs to get over to Cambodia, pronto, and get his batteries recharged.

these young players picking up their first caps was a real positive, and we have some talent in the pipeline.

dikranovich said...

garber made some fair points, regarding the comments coach klinsmann made.

I think even coach klinsmann would admit that one of the strongest correlations to winning a world cup, is also having a strong domestic league.

whats the big deal here, because pretty much everyone understands this.

justinwkoehn said...

Argentina doesn't have a top 5 league and they almost won the world cup. Guess where their best players play??? Europe genius.

Paul Poenicke said...

@ justinwkoehn: It might be best to let sleeping trolls snooze. But since we need to remind Dik that correlation isn't causation, I'll also add examples of Brazil (best players regularly go to Europe) and Mexico (a better league than MLS that does not reap significant rewards for the national team). Hell, Spain and France had very good teams and league and still failed to win the World Cup until recently. No doubt there is a connection between domestic leagues and international success (which is one reason why Klinsi, representing the USMNT, should not mouth off about MLS, at the beginning of a new World Cup campaign). But to state that one of the strongest correlations with winning a World Cup is a strong domestic league is bat-sh!t crazy. Or just the norm for some...

Thanks for posting the Doyle piece. Besides getting us back on topic, it is a view I would like to hear Greg opine on. I would need to review the specific games to see if Bradley was pushed up as far as he was against Honduras. We can also question whether playing Bradley behind the strikers actually caused the US to win; counting chances created, shots on goal, and such would give us a sense of how moving Bradley forward actually impacted the US.

One could also reasonably doubt whether we need Bradley to be pushed so far up for him to be effective in the offensive third. Bradley's touch on long crosses, chips, and diagonals could come from stepping up into a slightly advanced role, playing a ball, then moving back to a more defensive position.

dikranovich said...

Heckle and jeckle, please, you are both highly intelligent. You must know that messi didn't go to la masa because he or his papi thought he would get the best technical training, he went because Barcelona would pay for his procedure.

There is a disconnect here. Mexico has a unique style of play, as does Argentina, and brasil as well. These styles, that these countries have been playing with for years, they were not invented, nor nurtured on European pitches.

Germany domestic league was pretty dominate leading into 2014, as was Spain's back in '10. And guess who won the champions league back in 06. I guess you knuckleheads will argue that these are all European teams that have won the last three world cups.

dikranovich said...

I don't know, you can basically go all the way back to 1974 and see the correlation between world cups and champions league winners. It's right there in black and white, and it is pretty clear.

dikranovich said...

Hey dandy, could you tell us all which Countries club team just won the most recent copa libertadores? No need to mention the loser club.

dikranovich said...

Just to put a cherry on top of the banana royale I just served. A Brazilian team won copa libertadores six times between 1992 and 2002, a time period which saw Brazil play in three World Cup finals. Amazingly, brasil sent five different teams to those six wins.

dikranovich said...

Hey, just for kicks, anyone want to guess who won European cup, the year the Dutch won their only major trophy back in 1988? Anyone, anyone......., anyone

Hint hint: it was not Ajax.

brian said...

what about england this past WC? they BOMBED out, but supposedly have one of the best domestic leagues in the world! A good domestic league does not equal a good national team. The two have no correlation.