Sunday, January 11, 2015

Hey, you already have a job! Ohhh... wait...

I was not at liberty to divulge the following info before, but now Mikkel Diskerud has basically gone and done it in his always-amusing BigSoccer thread, so let us have a little review session. First off, neither Celtic nor Tijuana are in the picture - no matter how many times the UK rags link the former.

Secondly, yes, he is in talks with MLS - in fact, he revealed he will talk to them again this week. New York City FC is widely thought to be in the mix (no pun intended), and at my last check this seemed correct. I also have an unconfirmed hunch another MLS club further west has poked a nose in.

Diskerud also let loose that there are two clubs in Greece after him. I know the identity of both, but may or may not name them in the MLSS report that will follow tonight. I will tell you now that both clubs are in fine position in the race for European places.

As for Rosenborg, they now seem more focused on a replacement search than on the possibility of getting the free agent back. Is there anyone else around? Actually, I think there is. But like the MLS suitor(s), I cannot yet confirm it.

By the way, Mix, just kidding with the title.



- Greg Seltzer

30 comments:

dikranovich said...

*yawn*

WilkersonMclaser said...

A little surprised he isn't rated more highly in Europe. Bubble but highly rated USMNT player, relatively young, EU passport, CL experience. Interesting that bigger Scandinavian or continental leagues haven't taken a flyer. I'd actually think France would be a pretty good place for his skill set. I'd rather see him in Turkey than Greece.

Dany Tzvi said...

olympiacos. please please please please

brian said...

*yawn* "i have info but cannot divulge" oh wait ill just say whats already been said somewhere else. top shelf detective work.

Greg Seltzer said...

When I am asked not to say anything yet, that is what I do. Otherwise, I am a snake and those people will no longer tell me anything. Of course I would love to break all info forever, but I will not burn people to do it.

And if you think I am a fraud, then why are you even here? Assume whatever you want, I could not care less.

dikranovich said...

id love to see both San fran and Oakland with MLS teams. I think their styles would mirror NFL franchise, which means Oakland fans would be pretty cool. You'd have like the Berkeley army or something.

And any west coast game would basically be a fault line derby, from Vancouver, all the way down to San diego. Shoot, it almost makes you wonder if Tijuana would want to join MLS.

Dear god, can you imagine a team in alaska. This takes scouting to the extreme edges. And that cup game between anchorage and Miami would become must see TV.

Dany Tzvi said...

i am from san jose and you could not probably not have a team in san francisco and definitely not have a team in oakland. vast majority of people in oakland think soccer is dumb. san francisco might work, but getting a stadium in the city would be impossible without land reclamation and anything south of the city limits would be outcompeted by the quakes

dikranovich said...

I thought you were from Minsk

dikranovich said...

The quakes would feel the effects of a couple of regional teams added to MLS west, but the competition is good. San Jose basically has all the area south down the valley to about big sur. south of that is LA territory. San Jose has a big population to draw from. Oakland and SFFC make it a trifecta

Dany Tzvi said...

parents from gomel, born in minsk, grew up in san jose.
earthquakes get players from all over norcal but not fans. fans do not come up from santa cruz, monterey county, central valley to go to games. people who go to games are from the san jose area and the peninsula, and a very few from san francisco and oakland.

but franchises in san francisco in oakland are not feasible for the reasons i just listed. stadium in SF is near impossible and oakland has no fan base. besides the fact that MLS only has room for ~2 more teams and there are markets that are way more deserving in san antonio, sacramento, las vegas, and miami.

not to mention, from a league-wise financial viewpoint, norcal has one regional sports channel audience, so adding another team in the bay area would increase the league's TV audience by 0%. same thing could be said for sacramento, but unlike SF and oakland, sacramento has both a large fan base and a stadium deal.

dikranovich said...

Dany. San Francisco already has a stadium site, and it's in golden gate park. It would be one of the choicest sites in all of MLS.

Oaklands population is a little less than sacramentos, but that is city proper. Alameda county is if not larger than Sacramento county, it is more concentrated.

San Jose has soccer fans, but Oakland does not? Come on now.

dikranovich said...

MLSwest expansion cities by 2025.

Albuquerque, AnaheimOCFC, Bay Area FC, calgaryFC, Phoenix, SacFC, San Antonio, San Diego, Tulsa, VegasFC

The rocky mt. Derby adds Albuquerque, and Calgary.

The desert derby between pheonix and Vegas is juicy, and that central cal trifecta of Sacramento, San fran, and San Jose only adds to a busy state of affairs in the soccer hotbed of a state. Texas also adds to the intrigue with two new teams for derby games.

Tony M said...

Lived in SF for ten plus years and outside of it (East Bay) ten plus years. Still do. (I'm Tony in Quakeland on Bigsoccer if you want to yell at me there too.) Way back when Willie Brown wanted to build the Quakes a soccer stadium near the ball park, which would have been beyond awesome, but is impossible now.

dik, you are possibly referring to Kezar, the old 49s stadium, which has been reduced to a much smaller scale. It wouldn't happen but more to the point, it wouldn't work. Pain to drive to, BART doesn't go anywhere near there and would rely entirely on locals walking up to game days. SF would absolutely support an MLS team now, but there is no place for a stadium. Sharing the baseball park is the only feasible location, and while it's not bad for soccer, it's not great. The right stadium and I think an SF team would outdraw the Quakes.

Soccer is big where I am now (Contra Costa County) and there would be a lot of interest for people in an Oakland team if it was near BART. but I'm not sure if its enough. At this point, assuming Sacramento gets a team, a fifth California team would almost certainly be in San Diego.

dikranovich said...

Tony, how long does it take, to get from walnut creek to cal Berkeley on the BART?

I'd also be curious how long it takes to get from the mission dT. Bart to golden gate park, it can't be that long. MLS soccer games five blocks from height ashbury,

Tony M said...

walnut Creek to Berkley about 20 minutes. The closes BART to Kezar Stadium is either Mission and 16th or Civic Center. Both would require transferring to at least one bus. It is not particularly convenient. And the mindset of people out here is that they are not going to take BART then a bus... and there is zero parking around there.

By contrast, going from Walnut Creek to China Basin where the ballpark is a 30 minute BART ride, plus a ten minute walk.

I used to live near Kezar (north of the park). I could have walked to it in twenty minutes. While I like the idea in a romantic sort of way, it's not going to work. It's not like Portland, where the Timbers play in a neighborhood that borders a highway, has a tram line right outside and is a twenty five minute walk from Voodoo Doughnuts and Stumptown Coffee on the other saide of town.

dikranovich said...

Is there a location in the Bay Area that can draw fans from both Oakland, and San fran? Would the city of alameda with ferry access draw fans from both cities. Maybe that is to long a ferry ride from the warf. Edwards stadium in Berkeley? Let me go back to google earth and do Some more research

Tony M said...

Jack London Square in Oakland and China Basin (where the Giants Park is) are the only feasible locations that would fit what you're looking for. I'ved lived here 25 years. I've lived in the City, Marin and the East Bay. You can trust me on this one

andrés said...

The best way to get to Kezar is by on N muni train. Just transfer from BART at the embarcadero station. It's easy and once you get off the train, just walk down the hill to the stadium. The Quakes played Sacramento there last year and there was a nice turn out and a good atmosphere. But I highly doubt the neighborhood could support a full MLS match. I live in the neighborhood now and residents can't even find street parking.

Brian B said...

This has officially become an episode of The Californians from SNL.

Tony M said...

Brian, the NORTHERN Californians. We discussing mass transit, after all

Dany Tzvi said...

meanwhile im just sitting here on a street corner in a san jose ghetto posting up with all the other cholos (naw fool tambienwue no se que los gringos hablando about ese *throws up several gang sings*)

time to go make more "we <3 don garber" signs with the 1906 ultras...

Tony M said...

Andres, I feel stupid - my brother lived up on Carl Street a few years ago and the line went right past his place. I knew there was something g I was forgetting. Of course, we haven't even talked about getting there from the Pennisula or Marin... Just won't work for as a location.

dikranovich said...

Looking down from space, I'm looking south of AT&T park, across the canal, where a soccer stadium site would be bumpin. It looks like newer high rise residential is going in where it use to be all industrial. I'm sure this land is not cheap.

Further south, it's 5 m industries on Google earth, and it is carved righ into the side of a mt. Next door looks like a cab depot, this site looks like it could have some serious potential.

How long has the BART been around anyway?

brian said...

i guess i just don't understand the purpose of posts like this. "i have info but cannot disclose"

Greg Seltzer said...

That might be an excellent comment if I had actually said that. Only I did not.

Tony M said...

dik - 40 years?

10 years ago you could have gotten that land for next to nothing. Not so much any more.

dikranovich said...

I can see the limitations with a team in the Bay Area. San Franciscans probably will not go to Oakland or Berkeley for that matter to support a team. Costa contra county, man I loved playing contra growing up, that was one bad video game, but this county has a lot of potential fans.

You'd almost like to get two Bay Area teams playing in NASL and see how the situation goes, and if they can build a following, MLS follows. The venues are already in place.

The success of a team in this region will really go hand in hand with how well they can build up a soccer academy. There is to much talent in this region not to have something. I guess Sunderland had an academy somewhere in the region, now if Sunderland could just start up an MLS team we would have something

Dany Tzvi said...

sunderland and barcelona are in san jose, usbnt is in mt. diablo and santa cruz (lynden gooch), atlas (mx) is in merced, and theres de anza force in san jose who are really quality (marc pelosi, benji joya), thats all i know off the top of my head. theres also the copa alianza program which almost every mexican team scouts, that finds a lot of players, its how julio morales was discovered. and of course there is odp, which has a norcal program. there are a couple good clubs in the east bay, but really not much to speak of in sf

the earthquakes academy, which is really tip top right now, already pulls players from all across norcal, (tommy thompson is from sacramento area) including east bay and sf/peninsula. given that the vast majority of sj earthquakes academy players who are not on the youth national teams, i dont think we need another academy in the bay area. next step is sacramento.

nasl team is not the worst idea but heres the thing: you need somebody who actually wants the team. no person/group has come forward and pursued a franchise in sf/oakland. until that happens, it doesnt really matter, and thats not happening.

Dany Tzvi said...

and i mean, in terms of on-field product sunderland already have 1 mls team.

brian said...

"I know the identity of both, but may or may not name them" hahaha why do you do these things? its laugh-able.