Thursday, January 29, 2015

(raising a fist to the sky) DAMN YOU, TWITTEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR!!!!!

Urgh. I had just submitted my confirmation article to MLSS when this went up...



It will still go up with all the exposition, much of which I've had to keep mum for months. Before that makes it up, I'll open the cat bag for you now. Long story short, Agudelo actually had two Stoke pre-deals, with the second hinging on a Cyprus passport that just took too long (while the country pondered whether they actually wanted to go through with it. So he could not join the Potters last January and this month. Last week, he decided to go another way and now he is a Rev with a four-year contract.

Second long story short, the list of clubs (some you already know) that failed to lure Agudelo includes loan employers Utrecht, 1860 Munich, Anderlecht, Feyenoord, Red Bull Leipzig, Red Bull Salzburg, Sporting CP, Standard Liège and Werder Bremen. There were also teams sniffing around from Denmark, Italy and Spain, and let's not forget Birmingham City, Bolton and Wolverhampton.

This was tiring, and it sucked not to be able to say anything for what seemed like eons. Now I'm going to go talk to some black beans and chorizo with a fried egg on top about it all.





- Greg Seltzer

27 comments:

Timmy said...

This whole thing just reeks of terrible advice for Agudelo. Years wasted because of this move to Stoke. Who is Agudelo's agent?

Greg Seltzer said...

Nope, these were all player decisions.

brian said...

another one you had it but it juuuustt got away....again

Greg Seltzer said...

Part of the point of this entire blog is to let readers in on the experience of chasing all these stories. Part of that experience includes things like being asked not to divulge info for a time and simply being beaten to a confirm by another reporter . This is life.

Ives and Carlisle were reporting Agudelo was closing on a Revs return a few days back, so nobody here thinks my confirm would have blown the lid off anything. And I do not operate of what others do anyway.

But, as always, you are free to go find so many details of the saga elsewhere. Has anyone reported the existence of the second Stoke pre-deal? I have not, and that is a rather massive detail.

My first priority is not to be first, as nice as it is. My priority is to be accurately thorough.

Danny Boy said...

Excited to see him back in MLS. Now USMNT fans can accurately gauge Altidore, Zardes, and Agudelo.

jon said...

I don't really understand brian's beef. It's not a race and now that you've been leaving your little troll comments for a couple months at least, I figure you'd have figured that out. Greg's being a good journalist who happens to sometimes fill us in on bits of the behind the scenes that don't always make the final article. We come here for that stuff and also for the occasional little tidbits that Greg might be able to divulge.

The Wanderer said...

What Jon said

Tony M said...

I understand brian's beef. I just don't care about brian's beef.

dikranovich said...

It's interesting that the people that care about Brian's beef, are the same ones calling him a troll. There is a lot of troll slinging on soccer sites. It would be kind of funny, if it wasn't so sad.

Greg Seltzer said...

Yes, dikranovich, I sense this is truly an issue near and dear to your heart.

Brad said...

Greg - How serious were the offers from the other European clubs? I'd be interested to know why he passed on joining a Utrecht or Anderlecht-level team to return to the MLS? For a guy with dreamt of playing in Europe, those sort of clubs seem like really great places to start.

Ufficio said...

I don't see signing with Stoke as a poor move. Who would think Shea could get a work permit and Agudelo not?

And for the record I don't give a shit about Brian's beef, and he is a troll.

brian said...

i dont understand your need to tell everyone you knew about A, B and C, before others, but then only report it once the story broke - thats all. maybe it boosts your confidence.

Bernardinho said...

^ Just start deleting this crap, Greg - what a waste of first-world Internet access.

brian said...

legit questions 'dihno

Greg Seltzer said...

@ Brad: Just off the top, I do not understand much of what he did. At the end of it all, he had right around 10 offers. Some of the interest came much earlier, though, such as from Standard and Bremen. He basically held out for England as long as he could and then he chose what seemed the best situation at the time (preseason not midseason, more likely to be assured of playing time, etc.)

@ Bernardinho: I once tried mass-deleting, but it is such a chore. Besides, its okay, I guess being challenged comes with the blog style.

@ brian: I suppose we are even, because I do not understand your confusion. I already explained that, sometimes, I am asked not to run with things I know. Obviously, I am not going to run and blab stuff I am asked to hold because a) blabbing means I do not get told things anymore & 2) I am not a shady asshole who burns people. I also already explained how I present (as often as I can) the sausage-making of doing my job in a personal tone. The blog has been like that from day one, and not just when I break a scoop first. That is the whole idea here.

Besides, where do you imagine I said anything about knowing things before somebody else? I had only submitted a confirmation article from what my numerous sources told me about an ESPN report that the Revs deal was close to being finished. The article clearly states that the Revs info came from ESPN. And I have never once reported that the Revs were chasing him, so I do not see how you think I am trying to play it off as if I knew he was signing with the Revs. It clearly says in the post that I had to keep a lot of the *exposition* in this saga quiet. Naturally, I added in everything I knew about what happened all through the saga, much of which you cannot find anywhere else.

In summation, I posted this because it is what happened, because none of you knew much of what had gone on all along and because that is what I do here.

Jon said...
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Jon said...

Those who don't appreciate what Greg does, go F off elsewhere.

Let those of us who do appreciate what he does, enjoy his blog.

heythisisrobbie said...

The new "This American Life" podcast was about trolling. My first thought was Dikranovich and how he has mastered the art.

I really wanted he and Greg to be interviewed.

brian said...

robbie not sure that would be possible. DIK and greg MIGHT be the same person...

Greg Seltzer said...

Among a million other things, just for absolute starters, dikranovich clearly lives in America.

Game over.

brian said...

have you ever watched that show catfish, greg? is that what you are doing to your readers?

Greg Seltzer said...

And this is what you do with a Saturday. Think about that.

brian said...

use the internet? yeah i do that on saturdays. looks like you do as well.

Greg Seltzer said...

Yes, I am a soccer journalist working on a Saturday. You are inventing loony tunes to annoy strangers.

If you persist with this sort of pointless hijacking, I can just start pulling down all of your comments until you rejoin Earth. We can discuss soccer posts like everybody else or you can continue to embarrass yourself for no good reason. Your call.

Brad said...

I don't read the comments section enough to know about this trolling business, but I will say that really enjoy Greg's blog. I find it quite fascinating to hear the ins and outs of what it's like to track the movement of US players abroad. And I think this Agudelo story might be the best example yet.

Greg - I like your suggestions as to why Agudelo returned to the MLS. I wonder if he might have thought this move gave him the best chance of sneaking on to the Gold Cup roster this summer (not that I think he has a chance). Score a handful of goals to start the season and get a call up to one of the friendlies... That certainly would have been much more difficult had he stayed in Europe.

On a completely separate note, I was a bit surprised to see Tottenham release Yedlin for these two friendlies. The media reacted the same, though no one really offered a reason as to why they let him go. I know he wasn't necessarily in line for a first team appearance this month, but usually when a player changes club there's an agreement between club and national team that it would be best for him to adjust to his new surroundings before going off on national team duty. Does Yedlin's release say anything about how low down the list he is at Spurs right now??

Greg Seltzer said...

Spurs released Yedlin to gain match fitness, nothing more.

As for Agudelo, I cannot actually say how much thoughts of the USMNT factored into his decision. It probably did not hurt, though.