Thursday, April 23, 2015

Repeat, suckas.







- Greg Seltzer

30 comments:

Tony M said...

But but but he sucks! Because all the people on big soccer who remember one bad choice how many years ago against Panama tell us he sucks! Why else would jk try to convert mids to center backs? Why else would he never get a serious chance at the Nats if he didn't suck?

Chris said...

I sure hope that Ream gets more looks at CB, especially if we run a 3 CB system (3-5-2), which I think actually suits our personnel pretty well. I just hope that Ream hasn't found himself in the same JK doghouse in which Eric Lichaj, Benny Feilhaber, and Landon Donovan (RIP) ended up.

justinwkoehn said...

I concur, especially in that system. He was a fringe player going into the WC. Turning down that call-up in Europe really hurt his chances in my opinion...not so much punitively, but other guys got the chance to shine and make their case.

A quick aside though: how much is it worth being the best player on a bottom half Championship team internationally? I doubt that type of quality cracks most top 20 national teams. I also doubt Ream will look for a move, as he seems pretty loyal, and the Bolton fans loyal back.

Tony M said...

Being the best player two years running on a championship league team (with Premier and MLS experience) should count for more than playing in college, playing NASL, not playing at all and some of the other roster selections we've seen.

Considering he-who-shall-not-be-named's penchant for experimenting and moving guys around, not giving perhaps the most versatile backfield player we have (LB, LB in a three man line, CB and DM) is baffling. Add to it his ball skills and passing ability - those more sophisticated skills US players are supposed to lack - it is frustrating and puzzling.

justinwkoehn said...

A year ago, our back line was a huge question mark. I think we've come a long way, and have more depth now than in most positions (which is why a college player is getting called up for forward, and NASL for wing).

Dany Tzvi said...

between lichaj, feilhaber, ream, and donovan, only one player refused a call-up to go on vacation. poor him.

Paul Poenicke said...

@ Tony M: Agree that Klinsmann's lack of interest in Ream is staggering, given his talent, fit for the system, ability to play out of the back, flexibility. He certainly does belong in the same category of "What the fudge is Klinsmann thinking?" along with Donovan and Lichaj. Feilhaber is a fraction of the player Ream is, whether it was for the last WC qualifying or for the upcoming Gold Cup.

@Dany: Are you referring to Ream's decision not to attend the last national team camp before the final 30 were chosen to prep for the World Cup? If so, don't be so harsh--the man had to choose between attending that camp and being present at the birth of his first child.

Dany Tzvi said...

no i am referring to donovan.

child birth is not a vacation. beach resort is.

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Scott said...

What is surprising to me is the amount of forgiveness that others in the pool have received as compared to Ream. Chandler has had entire games that were poor. Same can be said for Orozco and Garza. Ream brings so much to the table, hope to see him again soon.

Paul Poenicke said...

@ Dany: Donovan had severe problems with depression. His "beach resort" was an attempt to deal with a serious medical condition.

Could he have dealt with it in a different fashion? Probably. Perhaps he was recommended to take time off by a doctor. Fact is, Donovan's problems were just as real as any physical injury.

Dany Tzvi said...

the only person we heard from about landon donovan's depression is landon donovan.

Greg Seltzer said...

Your point being... ?

Dany Tzvi said...

there is no solid evidence that he had serious mental health issues

Kirk Diggler said...

@Dany Tzvi

And you are basing your diagnosis on what, Doctor?

Freegle said...

You shouldn't hear about them from anyone else dany. Ever hear of HIPPA? It's literally against the law for any medical professional to talk about a medical condition of his without Landon's signed consent.

Dany Tzvi said...

i am precisely diagnosing nothing.

@freegle and? if LD had diagnosed clinical depression, i dont know why he wouldnt want his psych talking about it because he himself talked about it plenty. it wasn't a secret, there's just literally no solid evidence that he had clinical depression. im not saying he didn't, but unless there is evidence im interpreting his "sabbatical" as a vacation.

im not looking to attack LD, im just saying his loss of favor with JK was not random.

Freegle said...

So you're holding it against Donovan that the system worked the way it was designed to? The only reason he needs to not have his psych talk about it is "It's none of your damn business." It is Donovan's right to disclose what he sees fit. He doesn't owe you anything. Least of all an explanation of a private medical condition. That is a ridiculous position to take.

Dany Tzvi said...

i have phrased my words poorly and you misunderstand my point.

im not holding it against donovan, im explaining that this is why he was not in favor. he declined a call-up.

the public is not jk, but if he said the same thing to jk (in your words, "its none of your damn business") then of course he's going to be in good standing with the boss.

of course he has no obligation to play for the USMNT, but it is unreasonable for fans to jump on JK because he didnt treat LD like a god

Greg Seltzer said...

Treating him as a god was not the issue. The issue was calling players not as helpful as Donovan and then telling everyone how it was totally reasonable to do so because they were better equipped to help at a World Cup than Donovan.

Dany Tzvi said...

my initial comment on this thread was in response to Chris on 24 April at 12:09 saying that LD was in the "JK doghouse"

in regards to the world cup, which is tangentially related, i do not think is on-field performance in the months leading up to the world cup warranted a spot on the roster (and i would wager a lot that he showed poorly with the 30-man camp).

Freegle said...

To your point earlier... we have no "solid evidence" other than Klinsmann's words to say that Donovan didn't perform in camp. Why are you willing to blindly put faith in JK but not in Donovan?

Greg Seltzer said...

Recent form is hardly the only consideration when choosing a World Cup selection, Dany.

justinwkoehn said...

If only Wondo didn't sky that ball...we wouldn't still be talking about Donovan.

Freegle said...

The fact that he did is exactly the reason it continues to warrant discussion.

Bernardinho said...

Hey, just wanted to say I'm happy to see a vibrant soccer discussion here that isn't thoroughly antagonistic or cynical!

Dany Tzvi said...

everybody can speculate blindly about klinsmann's relationship with donovan. if he did end up in the doghouse, which donovan publicly said was not the case, i think there was reason for it.

i think 6 month form is relevant

Greg Seltzer said...

I did not say recent form was irrelevant. I said it it was far from the only relevant factor.

Dany Tzvi said...

i'd say half a year is a little more than "recent"

Greg Seltzer said...

Okay, but the length of what constitutes recent is not the variable I was speaking about.