Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Your USMNT Line-Up v Costa Rica

Does this mean we get the empty bucket?





- Greg Seltzer

15 comments:

dikranovich said...

i like the schedule USA has drawn for this next round of qualifying. our national team needs to get out on the road and bond a little. yeah, the first game is at home against st V&G, but then it is t and t and guat., on the road. after three games of qualifying for Russia, we should have more to work with. I believe our national team can turn on a dime, and next game this team can look like world beaters. the history of US soccer says as much and is one that always has the fans on pins and needles. one minute the team is on the way out the door, next thing you know, they are in the quarterfinals in 02, or the finals of the 09 confed cup.

after the Guatemala road game, USA get the home stand in the spring and this plays well into our current situation. if we need points down the stretch, we have the games to get those points, and if there is a change at the helm, there will be time to correct. that long window between the t and t road game and the Guatemala road game does not work in the favor of a coach who is on the hot seat, and who needs two victories from his next two games.

there is a deeper issue than the coach in all of this, and I hope that going forward we are able to recognize what it is that is limiting our growth.

every country in the world has a style, and coaches and players come and go, but the style does not. we, as a nation are not honing in on our ingrained style. we are not focusing on our style, and we are not looking to further develop it, unfortunately because we are busy trying to emulate Barcelona, or the dutch. or Germany!!!

we shy away from what is our natural style, and maybe that is why ticos outnumbered gringos at red bull arena tonight. and why a little country like costa rica can produce joel cambell. costa rica was playing three center backs tonight. I guess we basically were also. the difference being that they were doing it with intent, and for us it was the way the lineup worked out.

come on coach klinsmann, just put Michael and freaking benny in the center of the park, and we can enjoy a couple more years of magic from these two. its so obvious. yeah lee ngyuen dances around on the ball nicely, but no one in the US pool has the vision of feilhaber. nobody, not mix, not a one. this is needed and it will open everything else up. I don't know, enough is enough.

I really think that beating England in 1950 was the worst thing that could have ever happened to US soccer.

do NFL owners really want soccer to become as big in America as it is in the rest of the world? why would they?

oh well....

Bernardinho said...

Now this here, this is a good read:

http://screamer.deadspin.com/is-this-jurgen-klinsmann-fabian-johnson-thing-really-a-1736298516

justinwkoehn said...

Great article Bern, and also the one it links to in regards to Mexico just having better players.

Tony M said...

The article is garbage. Its an attempt to recast crappy coaching and untruths into something that favors JK:

"Many fans, media members, and U.S. Soccer bigwigs, though, haven’t taken kindly to the blunt talk. This means that every controversy is about something more, or other, than itself; they’re all, at root, about whether Klinsmann is right about whether the American way of soccer needs to change."

Blunt truths - what garbage. Find me a serious American soccer fan who doesn't want the quality of play raised, doesn't want a better, tougher player education through academy development. The fact is that this change has been going on for years. It predates JK and will continue without him.

It's complete BS that disliking JK = liking the status quo.

Let me be clear: he is a horrible coach because he has us underperforming our capabilities and he is setting the program back, not ahead.

dikranovich said...

Tony M, I guess my biggest problem with your comments is that, for one contingent or another, every coach has left the national team underperforming. You say coach klinsmann is an idiot, someone else had a firebobbradley#. Is this really the way to view the team? Is there another way? Do you think pep guardiola would come in and be different? How about klopp? Brendan Rodgers? Maybe that Dutch guy, guus hiddink? They all might be better. Maybe we need to look deeper than the coach, to come to terms with the problem.

J.D. Springer said...

@Dik We have an American style of play. It's defend and counterattack with speed. But that's not attractive enough to some purists, so we keep trying to pound square pegs into round holes. Until and unless we have a young group of players whose skillset begs for something different -- and I have yet to see these young lions -- that is who and what we are. That is our style

Joe Bailey said...

I have to agree with JD. I'm missing the empty bucket & Ricardo Clark now...

Arne Olson said...

I haven't seen anyone write about this, but it seems like Klinsmann came in the first thing he did was to neuter the counterattack so that we would have to play his possession style. I remember wondering during those early games why the hell they weren't going for it when they had the chance. They seemed to be holding back deliberately in favor of possessing the ball from the back.

I think this played into the Donovan situation as well. LD was absolutely ruthless on the counter -- no one else had his vision and pinpoint passing and as long as he was on the field the team was going to run through him. But this was counter to Klinsmann's style and he couldn't have that going into the World Cup. It wasn't enough for the team to play well, Klinsmann wanted to get credit for changing American soccer.

Then of course we didn't have the personnel for his system to work, so we ended up defaulting back to the counter attacking style, but without the ruthlessness we previously had. And we have had trouble scoring goals ever since because we can't create anything through possession and we have forgotten how to counter.

dikranovich said...

In case anyone was wondering, Fabian Johnson went the full 90 today. His coach made three subs, and obviously he was not one of them. His team also won in convincing fashion today. And for what it is worth, Johnson played two full 90s and started and played 70 mins in three games prior to the Mexico game. He played that time in those three games over a span of one week, before he had a week off, leading into the Mexico game.

I suspect a Twitter apology will come from Fabian Johnson over the next 48 hrs, if he has aspirations of playing for his national team again anytime soon.

Dany Tzvi said...

counter-attacking football is great if your highest aspiration is WC quarterfinals.

does switching to possession make us weaker? yes. do we have the technical players to succeed with a possession game? no.

but we will. and then we will not be weak. we will be stronk. when we make it to the semifinals, it's going to be with possession (which includes counter-attacking), not with bunker-ball

Arne Olson said...

Yes, having possession is better than not having possession. My main point is that our counterattack has been woefully missing for 3 years, and it is just dawning on me that it may have been a deliberate strategy to kill the counterattack to force the team to change its game.

We need to be able to attack with precision and deadly intent any time a good opportunity presents itself, whether on the counter or though long buildup.

dikranovich said...

Listening to Jurgen klopps post game comments after his first game in charge at Liverpool, It amazed me how much he sounds like coach Klinsmann. I guess they are both German!

soccer boy said...

Wow Saturday was a week later. You can recover a week latter. No issue.

Greg Seltzer said...

These two games were a big gut punch package, man. And life gets busy sometimes. :)

dikranovich said...

Arne, why would having possession be better than not having possession, for a team that plays strong defense, and thrives on the counter? Italy plays defense and counter. Have they been to a semi final of the World Cup?