Saturday, January 9, 2016

Four In, Two Out

And no, the additions are not veterans. Perry Kitchen is the most experienced additional call-up while a pair of Earthquakes bow out due to injuries.



- Greg Seltzer

9 comments:

dikranovich said...

Well, I think it is pretty truthful to say, if you are a veteran of a January camp, and have a cap, then you are a veteran of the national team. Kitchen and Steve B fit that bill.

Greg Seltzer said...

No, it's not, and we all know this.

dikranovich said...

Greg, the soldier who lost his life on the landing craft on d-day, he was a veteran. The Stanford fullback is not a veteran, but his teammate Jordan Morris is, as are the two DC United call ups. I mean, what the heck. Is Matt hedges somehow a veteran, but Steve birnbaum is not? Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!!!

Greg Seltzer said...

Who ever said Hedges was a veteran? However, now that you mention it, he *is* 25. Compared to a college kids and U-23 internationals, he absolutely is.

You have had your say and we all know your stance, that's enough now.

dikranovich said...

Just to clarify hedges has one cap, as does birnbaum. And birnbaum is going to be 25 in two weeks.

Greg Seltzer said...

Where did I gripe about Birnbaum? As is so often the case, you are conflating two separate and unrelated things. But since you're on this track, I certainly would not call Birnbaum over Hedges. In fact, there aren't many MLS players I'd call over Hedges.

dikranovich said...

Can you at least admit that more veteran players replaced younger players? The San Jose duo are in fact the U/23 players, while kitchen and birnbaum are already full national team members.

Freegle said...

Just to be clear... did you just compare a player being called into a soccer team to a soldier losing his life in a military offensive to make a point about veteran experience? or were you just trying to give another completely different definition of the term veteran to try to distract everyone from your incorrect point? Veterans of wars are no closer to soccer playing veterans than a 3 goal performance hat-trick is to a magicians hat-trick. Also, one cap in no way makes someone a veteran... Ask Joe Franchino, Jeremiah White, Sal Zizzo, etc.

Andy Palmer said...

To help solve the military veteran analogy...

The soldier who was wounded on D-Day and never fought again would be considered a Veteran by civilians. To other members of the military, he might still be considered "Green".

DK is using the "outsider/civilian" view of "veteran" while the others posting are using more of a "from the inside/military" view.

i.e., to USMNT players, having only 1 cap likely doesn't make you a veteran, unless perhaps you've played professionally enough years to compensate.