Saturday, April 2, 2016

The People's Court

I am not necessarily taking a side here, but I wanted to offer up the ladies' viewpoints as the USWNT battles US Soccer in a wage discrimination case.








- Greg Seltzer

7 comments:

dikranovich said...

This case is lost for the women in the premise of equal pay for equal play. The women must prove that their play is equal to that of the men, and there are to many metrics to overcome in this respect. The panama papers will be overshadowing this story shortly anyway, and that's good news for mrs. Abby.

Adrian said...

Do you mean like the women should be clocked in the 100 meter sprint times in order to receive equal pay? Because by any other metric (trophies, TV ratings) the women outperform the men. 30 million people watched them win the world cup final; only 17 million watched the USMNT lose to Belgium.

Dany Tzvi said...

^
WNT made USSF more money than MNT. USSF gave MNT more money than WNT. makes sense if you don't think about it.

dikranovich said...

Dany, you make some reasonable points, and women probably deserve more money, especially our women. We had a professional men's league, it failed, the reincarnation, MLS brought with it lower salaries.

Winning two world cups in 91 and 99, then starting a professional league that did not succeed, I think also works against the cause, but these ladies should fight for everything they think they are worth, without cutting off their feet, to spite their face.

The top paid American women does make about ten times what her counterpart in England earns.

Patrick said...

This complaint is just a negotiating tactic. They feel they will lose their MOA case and will have no leverage next January.

Comparing the salary based USWNT to the bonus structure of the USMNT seems apples and oranges. However, I do believe on working conditions that there should be respectful parity. Chartered planes, good pitches, meals, training facilities, et al. The problem here is what ticket price do you have to charge for the women to play on the best surfaces? The USMNT makes more money in TV rights and probably in every facet (the real numbers are hard to get), because 50% of the audience for their games is watching the opponent in many instances. When the USWNT plays Mexico, I doubt Mexican fans turn out like they do for the Men's game. Same true of all the other big soccer draws from Brazil to Guatamala. ESPN ratings might be closer for WC games, but how about the Univision ratings for a USWNT vs. Colombia game? We can find out tonight (is it even on Spanish TV?).

Patrick said...

This complaint is just a negotiating tactic. They feel they will lose their MOA case and will have no leverage next January.

Comparing the salary based USWNT to the bonus structure of the USMNT seems apples and oranges. However, I do believe on working conditions that there should be respectful parity. Chartered planes, good pitches, meals, training facilities, et al. The problem here is what ticket price do you have to charge for the women to play on the best surfaces? The USMNT makes more money in TV rights and probably in every facet (the real numbers are hard to get), because 50% of the audience for their games is watching the opponent in many instances. When the USWNT plays Mexico, I doubt Mexican fans turn out like they do for the Men's game. Same true of all the other big soccer draws from Brazil to Guatamala. ESPN ratings might be closer for WC games, but how about the Univision ratings for a USWNT vs. Colombia game? We can find out tonight (is it even on Spanish TV?).

Andy Palmer said...

The USMNT brings in 20x the revenue of the women in a four-year cycle. They also average far higher TV ratings. Were you to give the Women the same percentage of revenue that the men get, they wouldn't make minimum wage.