Tuesday, September 6, 2016

Your USMNT line-up v. T&T

Is this a 3-5-2 or does FabJo slide back into defense? Hmm...










- Greg Seltzer

11 comments:

dikranovich said...

That's what you call a win/win situation

reanalyst said...

Defense L to R: FabJo Birnbaum Gonzo Cameron

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JJO said...

Too early to declare a Jozy Renaissance? He looked as good as ever last night.

DaM said...

@JJO definitely not too early. He has looked as good for TFC since he came back as he has over the last week for the USMNT. Frankly I'm not sure it's an appropriate term because even when he wasn't scoring goals he was playing well. That run in the second half where he was on the ball and the TnT defender tried to american football tackle him and couldn't even do that. THAT run one of the reasons so many of have been so high on him for so long. Anyway, great to see him healthy, hope it stays.

As a side note, that 2nd half was as good as I have seen us look in the 4-4-2 in a while. Is it really any surprise that it comes based off of Klejstan, an actual 10, playing at the top of the diamond instead of the Bedoya psuedo empty bucket that was the last match. I'm not saying TNT is Argentina but they aren't St. Vincent either. Put a better right side out there and this would have finally looked like the team we were promised 6 years ago.
No offense to Mr. Cameron who I am fine playing there as Yedlin's backup as opposed to someone like Orozco, but Bedoya was the worst US player out there and continues to look more like Chris Armas than Tab Ramos when he plays out on the right (and don't tell me it is entirely a player pool issue, we have been begging him to use Klejstan for 6 years).

One wonders if that is going to be a spot Zardes holds down. He is far more a striker than he is a right midfielder, but he is still way better than Bedoya out there. Maybe the real answer is finally finding a non FabJo left back and moving he or CP10 to the right. I get the feeling with all the young +6/8's we have, Acosta is going to have to learn how to cross the ball cause he is stuck at LB, so maybe the answer is him.

As another side note, color me in the camp that feels like Wood/Altidore isn't our best pairing. Be interested to see Altidore/Zardes at some point. Also a very similar style player but Zardes is much better at working with another striker than Wood. I know Jordan Morris has some significant holes in his game at the moment, but he still also seems a better choice than Wood. I like Wood as a late need a goal sub, but he just seems way too self contained as a striker right now. Reminds me a bit of Defoe (obviously not that good in his career yet, lil more strength, lil less speed maybe).



Adrian said...

If we pair Altidore with a striker, I'd like to see him pair with both Agudelo and Morris.

Dany Tzvi said...

That run by Jozy was awesome, had me up outta my seat in the library

I think the thing about the 442 is we're gonna get bossed in the middle against better teams and struggle for posession. Already we saw a lot of bradley looking up with limited options. Bedoya at RM is kinda a remedy to that cuz he floats in and will make the simple plays. If there was one knock i had on kljestan it's that a couple times he tried to make a low % low reward long ball when there was a better, simpler option. Bedoya will make the simple plays. If you but zardes out there, suddenly you have bradley + 5 firecrackers and you all but forfeit possession, along with having a front 6 that cant defend. Bad combo.

Im okay with fabian at LB if we can use him properly and the tactics seem to be coming along nicely in that regard, but also i like castillo and villafaña as options there.

Wood needs to be involved, its just a matter of fitting him in. I hate seeing him on the wing, because i think he is not effective there (1860 know all about that). I also hope for 1 striker and love jozy. Ideally, in a tournament we would see a rotation incliding sub apps for wood.

Impressive how are striker pool has come along. Wood, Altidore... Johansson, Boyd... Zardes... Morris, Green, Rubin... and several good kids coming up.

DaM said...

@Danny yep that's always the problem with the 4-4-2 in modern football. So many teams run 3 man midfields because they still believe possession is important. And maybe that is true... in some sense there's a kind of counter culture developing around the theory that not all possession is meaningful.

The two things I think I see the US doing in that formation that helps them versus other teams that play similarly is 1) playing Bradley as the 6... on his worst day he is a robot who will not tire in his defensive cover and 2) they play more of a 4-1-3-2 than a true diamond meaning that the two "wings" are guys who tend to drift centrally. That usually means that 1 side really only has 1 defender but with Michael Bradley and usually a defensively responsible "10" they usually get the cover across pretty well (which in my view causes a problem with it is an offensively capable 8... you wind up getting something that looks very Bob Bradley-esque in the middle).

The real test comes in the next match. Does Klinsman revert back to Jones/Bradley as the middle 2 and hope one of them spontaneously turns into an attacking mid ... again? If so the defensive cover will be pretty good but we'll rely a lot on guys on the wings to get the offense moving cutting inside to fill the gap.

DaM said...

Oh and about the can't defend thing... I think you are selling guys like CP10 and Zardes short. Both of them do real actual work on the defensive side of the ball. I agree Wood isn't a wing so I don't think we'll see him out there, but there are some guys who will put the work in for sure.

Dany Tzvi said...

I think Zardes and CP work hard defensively but i dont think theyre good at it, and they shouldnt be. They both play advanced positions for clubs that dominate possession. Zardes has definitely improved that aspect of his game since his first cap but when hes not tested defensively at the club level the ability wont develop. Pulisic the same, and he's still not strong enough to win 50-50s. I got no problem with the 442 and no problem with conceding possession, but if we do that we need 9 or 10 guys who can really defend well. If we want our jozy and our pulisic and our kljestan and our dempsey, we need tactics that we can possess the ball with, otherwise some of those guys are gonna have to sit/rotate.

Adrian said...

Perhaps Pulisic is not a great defender right now because he's 17... I suspect that in a couple years (and pounds) he'll be winning his share of 50-50s. We did see that fantastic track-back and tackle against T&T in the first half after he got dispossessed. I think that type of tracking and tackling is what we can expect from him in the future.